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19991108: LDM to millersville (fwd)




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Robb Kambic                                Unidata Program Center
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---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 15:05:05 -0700
From: Steve Chiswell <address@hidden>
To: David Fitzgerald <address@hidden>
Subject: 19991108: LDM to millersville



David,
looking at your traceroutes, it appears that your bad connection trouble
starts on your campus:
2  wellfleet.millersv.edu (192.206.29.1)  364.515 ms  325.876 ms  294.671 ms

Since this appears to be your bottleneck, you probably won't have any better
luck failing over anywhere.

You might try contacting the campus networking folkes.

Chiz

On Mon, 8 Nov 1999, David Fitzgerald wrote:

> Chiz,
> 
> I think you hit it on the head about the slow connection.  I was
> looking at the FOS stats when I quoted the 6 minute lag and was hoping
> the hds would be the same.  Traceroutes to our primary upstream site,
> ns2.rutgers.edu are very poor, even though rutgers is physically close.
> Actually traceroute to any of our upstream sties aren't the greatest.
> 
> 
> For ns2 I get:
>   
>    traceroute to ns2.rutgers.edu (165.230.4.74), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
>  1  166.66.44.254 (166.66.44.254)  1.106 ms  1.118 ms  1.099 ms
>  2  wellfleet.millersv.edu (192.206.29.1)  364.515 ms  325.876 ms  294.671 ms
>  3  159.183.212.1 (159.183.212.1)  626.918 ms  686.099 ms  360.582 ms
>  4  159.183.204.2 (159.183.204.2)  761.095 ms *  352.117 ms
>  5  wches-gw-H8-0.voicenet.net (207.103.132.49)  395.340 ms  323.272 ms  
> 194.383 ms
>  6  delaware-gw-H4-0-T3.voicenet.net (207.103.132.42)  263.365 ms  216.451 ms 
>  245.143 ms
>  7  delaware2-gw-H2-0-T3.voicenet.net (207.103.123.57)  858.627 ms *  372.512 
> ms
>  8  baltimore-gw-H2-0.voicenet.net (207.103.28.102)  120.088 ms  183.146 ms  
> 139.180 ms
>  9  washington-dc-gw-H1-0.voicenet.net (207.103.28.114)  132.922 ms  90.217 
> ms  83.490 ms
> 10  a12-1-0-6.vienna1-br2.bbnplanet.net (4.24.144.17)  502.815 ms  489.962 ms 
>  683.544 ms
> 11  p4-0.vienna1-nbr2.bbnplanet.net (4.0.2.69)  606.632 ms *  762.803 ms
> 12  p2-1.nyc4-nbr2.bbnplanet.net (4.0.3.126)  794.037 ms  616.960 ms  598.591 
> ms
> 13  p10-0-0.nyc4-br2.bbnplanet.net (4.0.5.30)  652.770 ms *  617.250 ms
> 14  fa0-0-0.nyc4-cr4.bbnplanet.net (4.1.64.86)  613.143 ms  660.349 ms  
> 674.962 ms
> 15  s0.rutgers2.bbnplanet.net (4.1.76.110)  446.054 ms  441.244 ms  514.844 ms
> 16  transition-gw.rutgers.edu (198.151.130.5)  537.510 ms  555.091 ms *
> 17  hill-gw.rutgers.edu (165.230.12.129)  435.571 ms  354.747 ms  372.104 ms
> 18  nb-gw.rutgers.edu (128.6.227.7)  400.329 ms  367.251 ms  372.846 ms
> 19  ns2.rutgers.edu (165.230.4.74)  366.955 ms *  636.150 ms
> 
> for redwood.atmos.albany.edu I get:
> 
> traceroute to redwood.atmos.albany.edu (169.226.4.37), 30 hops max, 40 byte 
> packets
>  1  166.66.44.254 (166.66.44.254)  24.179 ms  28.767 ms  28.800 ms
>  2  wellfleet.millersv.edu (192.206.29.1)  79.098 ms  64.579 ms  41.951 ms
>  3  159.183.212.1 (159.183.212.1)  382.839 ms  340.204 ms  424.277 ms
>  4  159.183.212.1 (159.183.212.1)  450.340 ms  406.224 ms *
>  5  159.183.204.2 (159.183.204.2)  384.307 ms wches-gw-H8-0.voicenet.net 
> (207.103.132.49)  512.591 ms 
>  416.631 ms
>  6  ivyland-gw-s9-0-1.voicenet.net (207.103.5.45)  496.582 ms  343.029 ms  
> 294.290 ms
>  7  phila-gw-H2-0-T3.voicenet.net (207.103.5.50)  362.450 ms * *
>  8  phila2-gw-H9-0-T3.voicenet.net (207.103.28.34)  332.171 ms  274.347 ms  
> 267.798 ms
>  9  phila2-gw-H9-0-T3.voicenet.net (207.103.28.34)  319.902 ms 
> 904.Hssi5-0-0.GW1.PHL1.ALTER.NET 
> (157.130.6.57)  362.164 ms  357.365 ms
> 10  162.ATM1-0.XR1.DCA1.ALTER.NET (146.188.162.122)  396.612 ms  417.477 ms  
> 432.098 ms
> 11  195.ATM1-0-0.BR1.DCA1.ALTER.NET (146.188.160.225)  409.240 ms 
> 162.ATM1-0.XR1.DCA1.ALTER.NET 
> (146.188.162.122)  466.428 ms 195.ATM1-0-0.BR1.DCA1.ALTER.NET 
> (146.188.160.225)  388.482 ms
> 12  137.39.23.158 (137.39.23.158)  446.967 ms  422.367 ms  383.560 ms
> 13  sl-gw9-rly-8-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.7.250)  407.420 ms  446.075 ms  
> 367.356 ms
> 14  169.130.1.141 (169.130.1.141)  371.706 ms  353.206 ms  395.434 ms
> 15  169.130.2.98 (169.130.2.98)  394.688 ms 169.130.1.141 (169.130.1.141)  
> 391.344 ms 169.130.2.98 
> (169.130.2.98)  408.594 ms
> 16  at-gw2-alb-1-0-T3.appliedtheory.net (169.130.1.21)  363.449 ms  432.740 
> ms  388.306 ms
> 17  at-gw3-alb-0-0.appliedtheory.net (169.130.20.3)  423.571 ms  475.232 ms 
> at-gw2-alb-1-0-T3.appliedtheory.net (169.130.1.21)  395.606 ms
> 18  at-gw3-alb-0-0.appliedtheory.net (169.130.20.3)  418.905 ms 
> at-sunalb-1-0-T3.appliedtheory.net 
> (169.130.23.6)  339.306 ms  364.927 ms
> 19  169.226.13.2 (169.226.13.2)  390.209 ms  424.663 ms *
> 20  169.226.13.2 (169.226.13.2)  437.214 ms redwood.atmos.albany.edu 
> (169.226.4.37)  459.163 ms *
> 
> Other sites I have access to are just as bad or even worse.  Its like we are 
> in an internet valley 
> here and have trouble getting out.  
> 
> Any suggestions as to who I could use as an upstream site?  PSU's traceroute 
> isn't too bad but I 
> don't know how many sites they already feed.
> 
> Dave
> 
>      
>       
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> David Fitzgerald   
> System Administrator            Phone: (717) 871-2394  
> Millersville University       Fax: (717) 871-4725 
> Millersville, PA 17551                E-mail: address@hidden
> 
>