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Re: [noaaport] NOAAPORT



Thanks, Gregg.  That confirms my suspicions.  I know Unisys spent a lot of time with NOAAPort users fighting TI issues.

Dan.


On Fri, Jun 8, 2018 at 12:56 PM, Gregory Grosshans <address@hidden> wrote:
This PNS was just announced:


The PNS also discusses the Satellite ingest/receipt of NOAA Weather Wire.

A friend who is into HAM radio was telling me if one receives any form of RF communications (i.e. NOT just a satellite ingest), one should register their site with the FCC to protect them.  The protection comes into play if  later another entity starts broadcasting and causing interference on your RF reception, there is recourse for you via the FCC and the entity has to stop causing interference issues on your RF reception at their cost.  If one doesn't register, then the FCC can't force the entity to stop causing interference and one has to figure out how to resolve the interference themselves at their own cost.

Gregg


On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 2:30 AM, Daniel Vietor - NOAA Affiliate <address@hidden> wrote:
I know when I was at Unisys, we had to go through a rigorous ground survey for terrestrial interference to see whether a dish could receive the NOAAPort signal. It's best to do that before spending the $10K to install the dish and finding out it was useless. I know after installing a dish on the roof of CMC in Montreal, a nearby ground based telephone relay was 10 times the signal strength of NOAAPort.  No matter what we did, we couldn't filter out that signal.  Luckily for CMC, they had a dish in their parking lot pointed at the same satellite and we were able to use that.  The CMC building essentially shielded the telephone relay signal. I don't remember why that signal wasn't captured by the ground survey.

It sounds to me like the FCC wants to open up more of that frequency space to land based communications.  Not knowing where receive stations are means someone could request to the FCC to place a transmitter in your neighborhood and thus making your NOAAPort receiver unusable.  So this sounds like an insurance policy for your dish.  It says you're not required to register.  But if you don't, TI problems might pop up in the future.

My 10 cents.

Dan.


On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 11:13 PM, Gilbert Sebenste <address@hidden> wrote:
I thought it was free. Really? Yikes...why?!?

Gilbert

On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 3:05 PM, Rodger R. Getz <address@hidden> wrote:
Has anyone done this yet? It’s a long, nasty form and requires you to pay $435 for the privilege of filing with the FCC! Really?? This should have been stopped in its tracks by the NWS before it got to this point.

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On May 30, 2018, at 11:30 AM, Gregory Grosshans <address@hidden> wrote:

FYI, I believe the following is from the National Weather Association:

Do you have a NOAAPort Dish? Is it Registered?

The FCC is looking at the possibility of using the 3.7–4.2 GHz band, currently used for NOAAPort transmissions, for a broader range of services including wireless broadband.

Receive-only Fixed-satellite Service (FSS) and Fixed Service (FS) sites are not required to register with the FCC. For this reason, it is unknown how many existing sites are receiving data using this frequency. Without this information, it is difficult to assess the impacts of expanding services in the 3.7–4.2 GHz frequency band.

To understand the current landscape, the International Bureau opened a 90-day filing window for applications to license or register existing earth stations in the 3.7–4.2 GHz band. Stations that were constructed and operational as of April 19, 2018, may file. The filing window closes on July 18, 2018. Applicants must file electronically through IBFS on FCC Form 312 Main Form and Form 312 Schedule B, remit the statutory application filing fee, and provide any additional information required by applicable rules. See the last few paragraphs of the notice (linked below) for details.

Using IBFS link under FILE contains site instructions. The red box indicates the link to create the FRN.

The Bureau also placed a temporary freeze on applications for new or modified FSS earth stations and fixed microwave stations in this band.

For our NWS members, please note that the NWS is in the process of registering their antennas.

More information is contained in the FCC Public Notice DA-18-398.



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