------- Forwarded Message by unidata.ucar.edu (UCAR/Unidata) with ESMTP id hADHSxOb021779; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 10:28:59 -0700 (MST) Organization: UCAR/Unidata by ssec.wisc.edu (8.11.6p2-20030924/8.11.6) id hADHSK303335 for mcidas-users-list; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 11:28:20 -0600 (CST) by ssec.wisc.edu (8.11.6p2-20030924/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hADHSJZ03331 for <address@hidden>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 11:28:19 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 11:28:19 -0600 (CST) From: Kristopher Bedka <address@hidden> To: address@hidden Subject: GOES 3.9 um emissive vs. reflective Message-ID: <address@hidden> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: address@hidden Precedence: bulk Hi Mcidaser's I am trying to use the GOES 3.9 um band to examine convective cloud top microphysics (ice vs. water). After reading several references (http://www.chmi.cz/meteo/sat/plumes/), it appears that the reflective component of the 3.9 um signal can tell you whether a cloud top is composed of liquid or ice. I would like to use this microphysical information within a satellite-based convective storm nowcasting system I am developing. Being that I am not a "satellite person" and come from a numerical modelling/mesoscale meteo. background, I do not have the expertise to pick out the reflective component from the 3.9 um channel. Has anyone here ever had to do this procedure before? If so, would anyone be willing to share their McIDAS/Fortran routines to do this? I would greatly appreciate anyone's expertise in this area. Thanks, Kris - -- Kristopher Bedka Assistant Researcher SSEC/CIMSS, University of Wisconsin-Madison 1225 West Dayton Street, Room 219 Madison, WI 53706 address@hidden by unidata.ucar.edu (UCAR/Unidata) with ESMTP id hADHnQOb011078; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 10:49:26 -0700 (MST) Organization: UCAR/Unidata by ssec.wisc.edu (8.11.6p2-20030924/8.11.6) id hADHnDE04091 for mcidas-users-list; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 11:49:13 -0600 (CST) by ssec.wisc.edu (8.11.6p2-20030924/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hADHnCZ04087 for <address@hidden>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 11:49:12 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <address@hidden> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 11:49:13 -0600 From: Rick Kohrs <address@hidden> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: address@hidden Subject: Re: GOES 3.9 um emissive vs. reflective References: <address@hidden> In-Reply-To: <address@hidden> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: address@hidden Precedence: bulk As a good start, you can use IMGOPER to subtract the 11um temperature from the 3.9um temperature. This result is used for fog product and cloud over snow. example: IMGOPER EASTL/CONUS EASTL/CONUS A/A.1 UNIT=TEMP TEMP BAND=4 2 COEF=1 -2 SCALE=-100 100 0 255 LATLON=48:12:29 102:34:05 Try the above example for todays 17:15 image and compare the results to the visible. I have not worked extensively with this product so you may need to adjust the scaling factors. I did some work with Phil Durkee and Chuck Wash at NPGS looking at water droplet size differences off the coast of California and we generally adjusted the values for the solar zenith angle. Rick Kristopher Bedka wrote: > Hi Mcidaser's > > I am trying to use the GOES 3.9 um band to examine convective cloud top > microphysics (ice vs. water). After reading several references > (http://www.chmi.cz/meteo/sat/plumes/), it appears that the reflective > component of the 3.9 um signal can tell you whether a cloud top is > composed of liquid or ice. I would like to use this microphysical > information within a satellite-based convective storm nowcasting system I > am developing. Being that I am not a "satellite person" and come from a > numerical modelling/mesoscale meteo. background, I do not have the > expertise to pick out the reflective component from the 3.9 um channel. > Has anyone here ever had to do this procedure before? If so, would anyone > be willing to share their McIDAS/Fortran routines to do this? I would > greatly appreciate anyone's expertise in this area. > > Thanks, > Kris > > ------- End of Forwarded Message
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