Re: [thredds] running THREDDS as a packed war

Hi John:

What do you see as the benefits to using webapp-runner ?

John

On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 4:53 PM, John Cartwright - NOAA Federal <
john.c.cartwright@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Thanks Ethan.  I've been unsuccessful thus far running TDS as an
> un-exploded WAR, but will experiment a little further.  While it's not
> essential for us to run in that mode, it is our standard practice for
> webapps and it would be nice to have THREDDS run that way as well.
>
> Ideally for us would be to run with an embedded tomcat. We've been using a
> variation on the webapp-runner (https://github.com/jsimone/webapp-runner)
> and deploying some applications using spring-boot.  Have you all considered
> packaging TDS as a self-executing spring-boot app?
>
> --john
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 7:47 PM, Ethan Davis <edavis@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Hi John,
>>
>> One more comment on running with an un-exploded war file. The main
>> sticking point used to be that we used a method (I forget the details at
>> the moment) to figure out the directory of the webapp/thredds directory.
>> This method fails when running with an un-exploded war file. We used that
>> to build the path for the content/thredds directory. We no longer do that
>> (at least not by default). So that problem is out of the way.
>>
>> However, we still explicitly reference a few files in the webapp/thredds
>> directory structure. I'm just not sure that we have switched all of those
>> to open them as resources rather than files. (Actually, I suspect we have
>> not changed them yet.) But I also suspect this section of code is only
>> called when a TDS is run the first time, with an empty content/thredds
>> directory.
>>
>> Tracking all this down has never made it very high on our list. How
>> important is it for you to run it as an un-exploded war file? Might be
>> interesting to just give it a try if you have a test system handy. Just try
>> it with the path to your content/thredds explicitly defined and already
>> populated with config and catalog files.
>>
>> Hope that helps,
>>
>> Ethan
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 5:39 PM, John Caron <caron@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi John:
>>>
>>> You can configure tomcat to not explode thredds.war. it will still
>>> create a content directory as usual.
>>>
>>> Version 4.3 requires Tomcat 6, but we recommend the latest version of
>>> Tomcat 7.
>>> TDS 4.5 requires Tomcat 7+ and Java 7+.
>>>
>>> There are some lingering issues with FMRC with 4.5, but otherwise its
>>> better than 4.3. Actually if you are serving GRIB, you should use 4.6,
>>> again with the FMRC caveat.
>>>
>>> I hope to have the FMRC back to snuff soon.
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 5:34 PM, John Cartwright - NOAA Federal <
>>> john.c.cartwright@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks John, perhaps I should have described it as an "un-exploded" WAR
>>>> files.  We typically configure tomcat to not expand a WAR file into a
>>>> directory w/in webapps and I was wondering if I could do the same w/ TDS.
>>>> Is there anything it needs to write into it's context directory?
>>>>
>>>> By the way, what is the minimum tomcat supported for 4.3?  Also, can
>>>> you give me any ideas about the suitability of using 4.5 in production?  I
>>>> realize that it's marked as beta, but it seems you all are using it in
>>>> production.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the help!
>>>>
>>>> --john
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 5:27 PM, John Caron <caron@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I think war files are automatically packed??
>>>>>
>>>>> you can configure tomcat to not unpack thredds.war, if thats what you
>>>>> mean?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 2:43 PM, John Cartwright - NOAA Federal <
>>>>> john.c.cartwright@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello All,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is there a way to configure TDS 4.3+ to run as a packed WAR?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --john
>>>>>>
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