Re: [thredds] Static aggregations

I'm pretty sure the caching behavior has changed a lot with different
versions of the THREDDS Data Server -- and I'm pretty sure the latest
4.1 server does not rescan the entire aggregation.
What version are you using?

-Rich

On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 12:27 PM, David Robertson
<robertson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> It seems that THREDDS forces a rescan if the time stamp on the directory has
> changed. Even if I set recheckEvery to -1 or 90 days it still appears to
> rescan when the modified date on the folder changes. I tested this using a
> simple "touch junk" command in the directory I'm aggregating.
>
> This makes sense so that files added to the directory can be added to the
> aggregation. However, is there a way to tell TDS to skip this step for a
> given dataset or will I need to put my non-changing datasets in subfolders?
> If I put them in subfolders will I be able to aggregate the entire dataset
> together anymore? Perhaps something like:
>
> <netcdf xmlns="http://www.unidata.ucar.edu/namespaces/netcdf/ncml-2.2";>
>   <aggregation dimName="time" type="joinExisting">
>      <scan location="/home/om/dods-data/thredds/cool/avhrr/nc4/2006/"
>            regExp="^2006.*\.nc" />
>   </aggregation>
> </netcdf>
>
> for each year and
>
> <netcdf xmlns="http://www.unidata.ucar.edu/namespaces/netcdf/ncml-2.2";>
>   <aggregation dimName="time" type="joinExisting">
>      <scan location="/home/om/dods-data/thredds/cool/avhrr/nc4/"
>            regExp=".*/*\.nc" />
>   </aggregation>
> </netcdf>
>
> to get the aggregation to go through the subfolders and put the years
> together?
>
> The solution of getting TDS to skip rescan on specific datasets would be
> preferable to simplify scripts and avoid having to change them each new
> year.
>
> Thanks,
> Dave
>
> Roy Mendelssohn wrote:
>>
>> I believe if you don't set rescan it uses the default value - but would
>> have to check on that.  I know there is a way to tell it to not rescan .
>>
>> -Roy
>>
>> On Oct 22, 2009, at 9:42 AM, David Robertson wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Roy Mendelssohn wrote:
>>>>
>>>> What is your rescan set to for that dataset?  That is probably what is
>>>> causing it.
>>>
>>> I am not using rescan or recheckEvery so that's probably the problem the
>>> dataset element I'm using is pasted below:
>>>
>>> <dataset name="2006"
>>>        ID="cool-avhrr-bigbight-2006"
>>>        urlPath="cool/avhrr/bigbight/2006" >
>>>
>>>  <metadata inherited="true">
>>>     <timeCoverage>
>>>        <start>2006-01-01 03:10:00 UTC</start>
>>>        <end>2006-12-31 22:53:00 UTC</end>
>>>     </timeCoverage>
>>>     <geospatialCoverage>
>>>        <northsouth>
>>>           <start>34.9950981140137</start>
>>>           <size> 11.0090637207031</size>
>>>           <units>degrees_north</units>
>>>        </northsouth>
>>>        <eastwest>
>>>           <start>-77.0059967041016</start>
>>>           <size>  14.0119972229004</size>
>>>           <units>degrees_east</units>
>>>        </eastwest>
>>>     </geospatialCoverage>
>>>  </metadata>
>>>
>>>  <netcdf xmlns="http://www.unidata.ucar.edu/namespaces/netcdf/ncml-2.2";>
>>>     <aggregation dimName="time" type="joinExisting">
>>>        <scan location="/home/om/dods-data/thredds/cool/avhrr/nc4/"
>>>              regExp="^2006.*\.nc" />
>>>     </aggregation>
>>>  </netcdf>
>>> </dataset><!--2006-->
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Oct 22, 2009, at 8:47 AM, David Robertson wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there a way to tell the TDS NOT to look for new files to add to an
>>>>> aggregated dataset? I have several aggregations set up that do not change
>>>>> (no added or removed or modified files). Yesterday after generating the
>>>>> aggregation cache, access the dataset was quite quick; ~1 second to load 
>>>>> the
>>>>> Data Access Form. However, when I try to access those same datasets today 
>>>>> it
>>>>> takes just as long as it did to generate the aggregation cache in the 
>>>>> first
>>>>> place (5 minutes).
>>>>>
>>>>> It should be noted that these aggregations are subsets of files in a
>>>>> directory that IS being updated. What I have done used a regExp to 
>>>>> separate
>>>>> a very large dataset into years. The 2008 and prior aggregations will not
>>>>> have files added so I'm looking for a way to stop the TDS from searching 
>>>>> for
>>>>> new files to add to the aggregation cache.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Dave
>>>>>
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>>>> Government or NOAA."
>>>> **********************
>>>> Roy Mendelssohn
>>>> Supervisory Operations Research Analyst
>>>> NOAA/NMFS
>>>> Environmental Research Division
>>>> Southwest Fisheries Science Center
>>>> 1352 Lighthouse Avenue
>>>> Pacific Grove, CA 93950-2097
>>>> e-mail: Roy.Mendelssohn@xxxxxxxx (Note new e-mail address)
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>>>> "Old age and treachery will overcome youth and skill."
>>>> "From those who have been given much, much will be expected"
>>
>> **********************
>> "The contents of this message do not reflect any position of the U.S.
>> Government or NOAA."
>> **********************
>> Roy Mendelssohn
>> Supervisory Operations Research Analyst
>> NOAA/NMFS
>> Environmental Research Division
>> Southwest Fisheries Science Center
>> 1352 Lighthouse Avenue
>> Pacific Grove, CA 93950-2097
>>
>> e-mail: Roy.Mendelssohn@xxxxxxxx (Note new e-mail address)
>> voice: (831)-648-9029
>> fax: (831)-648-8440
>> www: http://www.pfeg.noaa.gov/
>>
>> "Old age and treachery will overcome youth and skill."
>> "From those who have been given much, much will be expected"
>>
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