Re: [noaaport] [ldm-users] NOAAPORT

Ray, 

It’s due to the link in the PNS, for some reason it has a “;” in the URL. The 
working url is 
https://www.fcc.gov/document/bureaus-announce-freeze-and-limited-filing-window-37-42-ghz-band
 
<https://www.fcc.gov/document/bureaus-announce-freeze-and-limited-filing-window-37-42-ghz-band>

Keith

> On Jun 8, 2018, at 2:04 PM, admin@xxxxxxxx wrote:
> 
> Attempted that URL and it blocked me saying it looked suspicious LOL.
>  
> Ray Weber
> MA Skywarn
>  
> On Friday, June 8, 2018 1:56pm, "Gregory Grosshans" 
> <gregory.grosshans@xxxxxxxx> said:
> 
> This PNS was just announced:
> http://www.nws.noaa.gov/om/notification/pns18-16fccgalaxy28.htm 
> <http://www.nws.noaa.gov/om/notification/pns18-16fccgalaxy28.htm>
>  
> The PNS also discusses the Satellite ingest/receipt of NOAA Weather Wire.
> A friend who is into HAM radio was telling me if one receives any form of RF 
> communications (i.e. NOT just a satellite ingest), one should register their 
> site with the FCC to protect them.  The protection comes into play if  later 
> another entity starts broadcasting and causing interference on your RF 
> reception, there is recourse for you via the FCC and the entity has to stop 
> causing interference issues on your RF reception at their cost.  If one 
> doesn't register, then the FCC can't force the entity to stop causing 
> interference and one has to figure out how to resolve the interference 
> themselves at their own cost.
> Gregg
> 
> On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 2:30 AM, Daniel Vietor - NOAA Affiliate 
> <dan.vietor@xxxxxxxx <mailto:dan.vietor@xxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> I know when I was at Unisys, we had to go through a rigorous ground survey 
> for terrestrial interference to see whether a dish could receive the NOAAPort 
> signal. It's best to do that before spending the $10K to install the dish and 
> finding out it was useless. I know after installing a dish on the roof of CMC 
> in Montreal, a nearby ground based telephone relay was 10 times the signal 
> strength of NOAAPort.  No matter what we did, we couldn't filter out that 
> signal.  Luckily for CMC, they had a dish in their parking lot pointed at the 
> same satellite and we were able to use that.  The CMC building essentially 
> shielded the telephone relay signal. I don't remember why that signal wasn't 
> captured by the ground survey.
> It sounds to me like the FCC wants to open up more of that frequency space to 
> land based communications.  Not knowing where receive stations are means 
> someone could request to the FCC to place a transmitter in your neighborhood 
> and thus making your NOAAPort receiver unusable.  So this sounds like an 
> insurance policy for your dish.  It says you're not required to register.  
> But if you don't, TI problems might pop up in the future.
> My 10 cents.
> Dan.
> 
> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 11:13 PM, Gilbert Sebenste <gilbert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> <mailto:gilbert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> I thought it was free. Really? Yikes...why?!?
> Gilbert
> 
> On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 3:05 PM, Rodger R. Getz <rgetz@xxxxxxxx 
> <mailto:rgetz@xxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> Has anyone done this yet? It’s a long, nasty form and requires you to pay 
> $435 for the privilege of filing with the FCC! Really?? This should have been 
> stopped in its tracks by the NWS before it got to this point.
> 
> Rodger R. Getz, President and CEO
> AWIS Weather Services
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> On May 30, 2018, at 11:30 AM, Gregory Grosshans <Gregory.Grosshans@xxxxxxxx 
> <mailto:Gregory.Grosshans@xxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> FYI, I believe the following is from the National Weather Association:
> Do you have a NOAAPort Dish? Is it Registered?
> The FCC is looking at the possibility of using the 3.7–4.2 GHz band, 
> currently used for NOAAPort transmissions, for a broader range of services 
> including wireless broadband.
> 
> Receive-only Fixed-satellite Service (FSS) and Fixed Service (FS) sites are 
> not required to register with the FCC. For this reason, it is unknown how 
> many existing sites are receiving data using this frequency. Without this 
> information, it is difficult to assess the impacts of expanding services in 
> the 3.7–4.2 GHz frequency band.
> 
> To understand the current landscape, the International Bureau opened a 90-day 
> filing window for applications to license or register existing earth stations 
> in the 3.7–4.2 GHz band. Stations that were constructed and operational as of 
> April 19, 2018, may file. The filing window closes on July 18, 2018. 
> Applicants must file electronically through IBFS 
> <http://licensing.fcc.gov/myibfs/> on FCC Form 312 Main Form and Form 312 
> Schedule B <https://transition.fcc.gov/Forms/Form312/312Fill.pdf>, remit the 
> statutory application filing fee, and provide any additional information 
> required by applicable rules. See the last few paragraphs of the notice 
> (linked below) for details.
> 
> 
> 
> Using IBFS link under FILE contains site instructions. The red box indicates 
> the link to create the FRN.
> 
> The Bureau also placed a temporary freeze on applications for new or modified 
> FSS earth stations and fixed microwave stations in this band.
> 
> For our NWS members, please note that the NWS is in the process of 
> registering their antennas.
> 
> More information is contained in the FCC Public Notice DA-18-398 
> <https://www.fcc.gov/document/bureaus-announce-freeze-and-limited-filing-window-37-42-ghz-band>.
> 
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