Re: [ldm-users] filters on NOAAPort dishes?

  • To: Gilbert Sebenste <gilbert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Stephen Adams <sadams@xxxxxxxx>
  • Subject: Re: [ldm-users] filters on NOAAPort dishes?
  • From: Raymond Weber <admin@xxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2021 17:29:49 +0000
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I have 5g sites on these adjacent frequencies all around me. I have had no 
issues with a 12 ft dish.

a good LNB, norcomm etc, seems to be the key.

Ray
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Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2021 1:26 PM
To: Stephen Adams <sadams@xxxxxxxx>
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Subject: Re: [ldm-users] filters on NOAAPort dishes?






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Hi Steve,

Short answer: absolutely.

More thorough answer: Absolutely. With our dish at AllisonHouse, we have been 
dealing with this issue for the better part of a year. We did a complete 
refurbishment on it last year. We bought the highest quality coax, an LNB with 
a notch filter to only let our part of the spectrum through, and everything 
else is heavily shielded.

Our dish is in the middle of what I call "TI Hell": several cellular towers, 
each with different carriers already broadcasting 5G, are nearby. On top of 
that, just down the road, are multiple commercial and PBS television stations, 
some of which transmit at 1 million watts Effective Radiated Power (1 MW ERP). 
We also have 100 kilowatt (kw) FM and 50 kw AM radio towers nearby, as well as 
an active railroad line close by, producing vibrations, which I also had to 
deal with. Our engineer showed me the readout at the dish from his spectrum 
analyzer: it was dang ugly. Throw in COVID-19, and I had serious challenges to 
overcome getting this done. I'm happy to say that by dealing with all of those 
problems all at once, I can sleep at night. The only times our dish has issues 
is if the uplink dies, or there's heavy snow, or a thunderstorm. Standard fare 
for satellite reception.

With that, we can still lose 10,000 to 20,000 packets a day on days when our 
data center generator is tested. But overall, our packet losses are low, and 
I'm generally happy with the reception.

SSEC is another success story. No offense to them, but for quite a long time, 
their NOAAport reception was bad. They also did a dish refurbishment, and 
bought the best LNB money could buy, which is heavily filtered. When all was 
said and done, they now generally lose *zero* packets per day. They got a 15 dB 
signal increase(!), and they do have 5G towers close to them. They are another 
model for how to do it right in a challenging RF environment.

Gilbert



On Apr 28, 2021, at 11:05 AM, Stephen Adams via ldm-users 
<ldm-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


Good morning all,

This pertains to everyone who has a satellite NOAAPort feed.

Given the impending C-band repack to support 5G, are you planning to install a 
filter on your dish? Although the NOAAPort frequency is outside of the 5G 
range, it is my understanding that the filter is required due to increased 
crowding in the upper C-band, leading to potential interference issues. Is that 
your understanding as well?

Steve

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