Thanks, Gregg. That confirms my suspicions. I know Unisys spent a lot of
time with NOAAPort users fighting TI issues.
Dan.
On Fri, Jun 8, 2018 at 12:56 PM, Gregory Grosshans <
gregory.grosshans@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> This PNS was just announced:
>
> http://www.nws.noaa.gov/om/notification/pns18-16fccgalaxy28.htm
>
> The PNS also discusses the Satellite ingest/receipt of NOAA Weather Wire.
>
> A friend who is into HAM radio was telling me if one receives any form of
> RF communications (i.e. NOT just a satellite ingest), one should register
> their site with the FCC to protect them. The protection comes into play
> if later another entity starts broadcasting and causing interference on
> your RF reception, there is recourse for you via the FCC and the entity has
> to stop causing interference issues on your RF reception at their cost. If
> one doesn't register, then the FCC can't force the entity to stop causing
> interference and one has to figure out how to resolve the interference
> themselves at their own cost.
>
> Gregg
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 2:30 AM, Daniel Vietor - NOAA Affiliate <
> dan.vietor@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> I know when I was at Unisys, we had to go through a rigorous ground
>> survey for terrestrial interference to see whether a dish could receive the
>> NOAAPort signal. It's best to do that before spending the $10K to install
>> the dish and finding out it was useless. I know after installing a dish on
>> the roof of CMC in Montreal, a nearby ground based telephone relay was 10
>> times the signal strength of NOAAPort. No matter what we did, we couldn't
>> filter out that signal. Luckily for CMC, they had a dish in their parking
>> lot pointed at the same satellite and we were able to use that. The CMC
>> building essentially shielded the telephone relay signal. I don't remember
>> why that signal wasn't captured by the ground survey.
>>
>> It sounds to me like the FCC wants to open up more of that frequency
>> space to land based communications. Not knowing where receive stations are
>> means someone could request to the FCC to place a transmitter in your
>> neighborhood and thus making your NOAAPort receiver unusable. So this
>> sounds like an insurance policy for your dish. It says you're not required
>> to register. But if you don't, TI problems might pop up in the future.
>>
>> My 10 cents.
>>
>> Dan.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 11:13 PM, Gilbert Sebenste <
>> gilbert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> I thought it was free. Really? Yikes...why?!?
>>>
>>> Gilbert
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 3:05 PM, Rodger R. Getz <rgetz@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Has anyone done this yet? It’s a long, nasty form and requires you to
>>>> pay $435 for the privilege of filing with the FCC! Really?? This should
>>>> have been stopped in its tracks by the NWS before it got to this point .
>>>>
>>>> Rodger R. Getz, President and CEO
>>>> AWIS Weather Services
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>>>> On May 30, 2018, at 11:30 AM, Gregory Grosshans <
>>>> Gregory.Grosshans@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> FYI, I believe the following is from the National Weather Association:
>>>>
>>>> *Do you have a NOAAPort Dish? Is it Registered?*
>>>>
>>>> The FCC is looking at the possibility of using the 3.7–4.2 GHz band,
>>>> currently used for NOAAPort transmissions, for a broader range of services
>>>> including wireless broadband.
>>>>
>>>> Receive-only Fixed-satellite Service (FSS) and Fixed Service (FS) sites
>>>> are not required to register with the FCC. For this reason, it is unknown
>>>> how many existing sites are receiving data using this frequency. Without
>>>> this information, it is difficult to assess the impacts of expanding
>>>> services in the 3.7–4.2 GHz frequency band.
>>>>
>>>> To understand the current landscape, the International Bureau opened a
>>>> 90-day filing window for applications to license or register existing earth
>>>> stations in the 3.7–4.2 GHz band. Stations that were constructed and
>>>> operational as of April 19, 2018, may file. The filing window closes on
>>>> July 18, 2018. Applicants must file electronically through IBFS
>>>> <http://licensing.fcc.gov/myibfs/> on FCC Form 312 Main Form and Form
>>>> 312 Schedule B <https://transition.fcc.gov/Forms/Form312/312Fill.pdf>,
>>>> remit the statutory application filing fee, and provide any additional
>>>> information required by applicable rules. See the last few paragraphs of
>>>> the notice (linked below) for details.
>>>>
>>>> Using IBFS link under FILE contains site instructions. The red box
>>>> indicates the link to create the FRN.
>>>>
>>>> The Bureau also placed a temporary freeze on applications for new or
>>>> modified FSS earth stations and fixed microwave stations in this band.
>>>>
>>>> For our NWS members, please note that the NWS is in the process of
>>>> registering their antennas.
>>>>
>>>> More information is contained in the FCC Public Notice DA-18-398
>>>> <https://www.fcc.gov/document/bureaus-announce-freeze-and-limited-filing-window-37-42-ghz-band>
>>>> .
>>>>
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