Hi ldm-users,
A quick update on this subject. An email was sent to NWS HQ today that
NCEP's recommendation was to obtain the 0.5 deg WMO data and make it
available on our GTS web service over ftp/http. Once we hear if they agree
to that I will send out a PNS of the URL location where the data can be
found.
Thanks,
Carissa Klemmer
NCEP Central Operations
Dataflow Team Lead
301-683-3835
On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 8:55 PM, Pete Pokrandt <poker@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> All,
>
>
> Quick update on this. I ran into Becky Cosgrove at AMS this week, and she
> said that the 0.5 deg replacement ECMWF data will NOT be going out over
> NOAAPORT, primarily because of bandwidth constraints.
>
>
> However, I asked what about putting the merger of WMO Essential and WMO
> Additional products (basically same fields/levels we used to get) out on
> the CONDUIT data stream, and she was willing to look into that. Sounded
> like it could happen.
>
>
> As of about 5 minutes ago, I have an email in to her reminding her of our
> conversation. I'll keep you posted if I hear anything more.
>
>
> Pete
>
>
>
>
> <http://www.weather.com/tv/shows/wx-geeks/video/the-incredible-shrinking-cold-pool>
> --
> Pete Pokrandt - Systems Programmer
> UW-Madison Dept of Atmospheric and Oceanic Sciences
> 608-262-3086 - poker@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Gilbert Sebenste <gilbert@xxxxxxx>
> *Sent:* Monday, December 4, 2017 3:26 PM
> *To:* Pete Pokrandt; Michael Dross
> *Cc:* Hughes, Brian; ldm-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* RE: [ldm-users] No European model data as of 12/1?
>
>
> Pete,
>
>
>
> Yes, we are a member of the WMO. However, we aren’t members of ECMWF.
>
>
>
> The real issue is this: NOAAport had several ECMWF products that are
> “additional” by the NWS at 2.5 degree resolution, that have now been
> discontinued as of December 1. These were the products that were beyond WMO
> Resolution 40. The NWS can get at these parameters; it’s a matter of if the
> NWS wants to send it out at the .5 degree resolution.
>
>
>
> Either way: I do hope we see these data again on NOAAport at 0.5 degrees
> resolution. Whatever you think of the ECWMF model versus any other, it’s
> darn good, and I will miss it being on there.
>
>
>
> Gilbert
>
>
>
> *Gilbert Sebenste*
>
> Staff Meteorologist
>
>
>
> Environmental Health and Safety
>
> Labs for Wellness 154 | DeKalb, Illinois 60115
>
> 815-753-5492
>
> *gilbert@xxxxxxx <gilbert@xxxxxxx>*
>
> http://weather.admin.niu.edu
>
> Everyone. Home. Safely.
>
>
>
> [image: NIU]
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* ldm-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ldm-users-bounces@
> unidata.ucar.edu] *On Behalf Of *Pete Pokrandt
> *Sent:* Monday, December 04, 2017 3:06 PM
> *To:* Michael Dross <mdross@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> *Cc:* Hughes, Brian <Brian.Hughes@xxxxxxxxxx>; ldm-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* Re: [ldm-users] No European model data as of 12/1?
>
>
>
> The other levels (700, 200, etc.) are "available to WMO members" with some
> restrictions, no commercial use, etc.. but to get a password for their ftp
> server, one needs to "contact our Permanent WMO rep and ask them to send an
> email to the ECMWF director."
>
>
>
> That sounds like above my pay grade, and probably what NWS (or Unidata)
> should be investigating if we want to see this data on NOAAPORT or
> CONDUIT(I do!)
>
>
>
> <Stupid question> The US is still a WMO member, correct? </Stupid question>
>
>
>
> Pete
>
>
>
> --
> Pete Pokrandt - Systems Programmer
> UW-Madison Dept of Atmospheric and Oceanic Sciences
> 608-262-3086 - poker@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* Michael Dross <mdross@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> *Sent:* Monday, December 4, 2017 2:54 PM
> *To:* Pete Pokrandt
> *Cc:* Gilbert Sebenste; Hughes, Brian; ldm-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* Re: [ldm-users] No European model data as of 12/1?
>
>
>
> As you mentioned, quite a few standard parameters missing, 700, 200 level,
> RH, etc.
>
>
>
> I sure hope NWS can restore at least what was on the SBN.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Dec 4, 2017, at 1:35 PM, Pete Pokrandt <poker@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> es and em are ensemble mean and std deviation. Should have guessed that.
> ws is wind speed. Products do go out to 10 days too, compared to 7 days
> previously.
>
>
>
> Pete
>
>
>
> --
> Pete Pokrandt - Systems Programmer
> UW-Madison Dept of Atmospheric and Oceanic Sciences
> 608-262-3086 - poker@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* ldm-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <ldm-users-bounces@unidata.
> ucar.edu> on behalf of Pete Pokrandt <poker@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> *Sent:* Monday, December 4, 2017 12:31 PM
> *To:* Gilbert Sebenste; Hughes, Brian
> *Cc:* ldm-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* Re: [ldm-users] No European model data as of 12/1?
>
>
>
> So, looking at that public ftp directory, it looks like they are no longer
> distributing any 700 hPa or 200 hPa products. There appears to be only
> MSLP, 500 hPa Heights, and 850 hPa Temp, U, V, along with some hurricane
> track products and some other things (es_msl, and em_msl, and em_ws for
> example) that I'm not sure what they are yet.
>
>
>
> The 0.5 deg is nice, the lack of anything above 500 hPa is a bummer.
>
>
>
> Pete
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Pete Pokrandt - Systems Programmer
> UW-Madison Dept of Atmospheric and Oceanic Sciences
> 608-262-3086 - poker@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* ldm-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <ldm-users-bounces@unidata.
> ucar.edu> on behalf of Gilbert Sebenste <gilbert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> *Sent:* Monday, December 4, 2017 12:23 PM
> *To:* Hughes, Brian
> *Cc:* ldm-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* Re: [ldm-users] No European model data as of 12/1?
>
>
>
> Lovely. Thanks, Brian. Anyone: did I miss a Service Change Notice?
>
> Gilbert
>
> > On Dec 4, 2017, at 11:59 AM, Hughes, Brian <Brian.Hughes@xxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Gilbert,
> >
> > We have reached out to NWS regarding this. It appears ECMWF stopped
> > transmitting the 2.5deg in favor of the 0.5 deg which is not currently on
> > NOAAPort.
> >
> > -Brian
> >
> > --
> > Duncan Jeffery (UKMET) wrote
> >
> > Dear colleagues
> > As of 0000UTC on the 1st December ECMWF retired their GRIB
> > edition-1 low resolution products.This change had been notified
> > to the WMO secretariat, and appeared in the WWW Operational
> > Newsletter on 12th October. The original message from ECMWF
> > read:
> >
> > ECMWF will stop the production and transmission of GRIB edition-1
> > products at 2.5x2.5 degrees on the 1st December 2017.
> >
> > Detailed information about these products, including the TTAAii headers,
> > can be found at:
> >
> > (https://www.ecmwf.int/en/forecasts/datasets/public-wmo-
> acmad/gts-headers-gl
> > obal-distribution)
> >
> > These deprecated products have been replaced with higher resolution
> > products in GRIB edition-2, which have been available on the WIS
> > (including GTS) for many years. For further details see:
> > (https://www.ecmwf.int/en/forecasts/datasets/public-wmo-
> and-acmad-datasets)
> >
> > The attached file lists GRIB data that is still available from ECMWF.
> > If you wish to receive these bulletins please contact me.
> >
> > duncan.jeffery@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > Best regards
> > --
> >
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> > Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2017 17:35:50 +0000
> > From: Gilbert Sebenste <gilbert@xxxxxxx>
> > To: LDM <ldm-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: [ldm-users] No European model data as of 12/1?
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> > Hello everyone,
> >
> > Over on the HRS feed, I received a limited set of European model data via
> > NOAAport:
> >
> > -rw-r-r-- 1 ldm blahblah 2227608 Nov 30 12:57 12113017.gbe
> >
> > Since the 12Z 11/30/17 run, I've received nothing. Has the NWS
> discontinued
> > broadcasting this data over NOAAport? I didn't see any announcements
> about
> > it.
> >
> > Gilbert
> >
> > Gilbert Sebenste
> > Staff Meteorologist
> >
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