Re: [ldm-users] 20151202: NLDN feed back up, but moved - was Re: NLDN feed down

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  • Subject: Re: [ldm-users] 20151202: NLDN feed back up, but moved - was Re: NLDN feed down
  • From: Harry Edmon <harry@xxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2015 09:17:58 -0800
Adding the "-close" did it.   Thanks.

On 12/03/15 08:32, daessupport@xxxxxxxxxx wrote:
Hi,
      I’m curious about your pqact entry for dcnldn.
Specifically, do you have “-close" to close the PIPE after it has
finished processing a product? If not, try adding it.
      I suspect what is happening is that now products
are sent every minute that dcnldn is staying alive and
processing the next header as if it were more data.
Adding -close should force dcnldn to process one
product at a time.

DAvid


On Dec 2, 2015, at 3:03 PM, Harry Edmon <harry@xxxxxx> wrote:

I am getting it also.   Looks like the key went back to Julian Day instead of
month/day.   And I am also seeing the strange GEMPAK filenames.

On 12/02/15 11:57, Pete Pokrandt wrote:
We have data! Looks like my pqact line will need to be altered to handle the 
new naming and/or 1 min data, but it's coming through.

Dec 02 19:47:27 notifyme[20367] INFO:       84 20151202194702.562 LIGHTNING 000 
 2015336194702
Dec 02 19:48:27 notifyme[20367] INFO:       84 20151202194802.716 LIGHTNING 000 
 2015336194802
Dec 02 19:49:27 notifyme[20367] INFO:       84 20151202194902.868 LIGHTNING 000 
 2015336194902
Dec 02 19:50:27 notifyme[20367] INFO:       84 20151202195003.012 LIGHTNING 000 
 2015336195003
Dec 02 19:51:27 notifyme[20367] INFO:       84 20151202195103.152 LIGHTNING 000 
 2015336195103
Dec 02 19:52:27 notifyme[20367] INFO:       84 20151202195203.296 LIGHTNING 000 
 2015336195203
Dec 02 19:53:27 notifyme[20367] INFO:       84 20151202195303.447 LIGHTNING 000 
 2015336195303
Dec 02 19:54:27 notifyme[20367] INFO:       84 20151202195403.603 LIGHTNING 000 
 2015336195403
Dec 02 19:55:28 notifyme[20367] INFO:       84 20151202195503.765 LIGHTNING 000 
 2015336195503

in my gempak dir

-rw-r--r--. 1 ldm ldm  702976 Nov 12 05:11 15111210.gem
-rw-r--r--. 1 ldm ldm  702976 Nov 12 06:18 15111212.gem
-rw-r--r--. 1 ldm ldm  702976 Nov 12 09:00 15111214.gem
-rw-r--r--. 1 ldm ldm  702976 Nov 12 09:24 15111215.gem
-rw-r--r--. 1 ldm ldm  702976 Nov 12 10:52 15111216.gem
-rw-r--r--. 1 ldm ldm  704000 Dec  2 13:54 11081722.gem
-rw-r--r--. 1 ldm ldm  704000 Dec  2 13:54 16061815.gem
-rw-r--r--. 1 ldm ldm  704000 Dec  2 13:54 87013003.gem


Pete


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________________________________________
From: daessupport@xxxxxxxxxx <daessupport@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2015 1:50 PM
To: Harry Edmon
Cc: Daes Support; Tom McDermott; Tom Yoksas; Pete Pokrandt; Kevin Tyle; Arthur 
A Person; Larry D. Oolman; ldm-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [ldm-users] 20151202: NLDN feed back up, but moved - was Re: NLDN 
feed down

Hi all,

Should be OK now. There was a bad allow line in our ldmd.conf,
and I made a newbie mistake. When I copied the allow
lines from striker2 to striker all the tabs got converted into spaces!
Ooops!

Thanks for your patience with this,

David

p.s. let daessupport@xxxxxxxxxx know if your are getting data or not now.
Thanks

On Dec 2, 2015, at 2:30 PM, Harry Edmon <harry@xxxxxx> wrote:

Same here from freshair1.atmos.washington.edu and
freshair2.atmos.washington.edu.   Correct address for striker, only requesting
lightning from striker.

On 12/02/15 11:23, Tom McDermott wrote:
On Wed, 2 Dec 2015, Tom Yoksas wrote:

Questions for everyone:

- what are your ldmd.conf REQUEST line(s) for LIGHTNING data?
Tom,

I just have 1 line (in other words, I don't get USPLN):

request    NLDN    ".*"    striker.atmos.albany.edu

- what IP address does striker.atmos.albany.edu resolve to on
your LDM machines?

The correct name <-> IP mapping is:

stiker.atmos.albany.edu <-> 169.226.16.37
[393] vortex% nslookup striker.atmos.albany.edu
Server:  adrisc1.admc.brockport.edu
Address:  137.21.1.15

Non-authoritative answer:
Name:    striker.atmos.albany.edu
Address:  169.226.16.37

[394] vortex% nslookup 169.226.16.37
Server:  adrisc1.admc.brockport.edu
Address:  137.21.1.15

Name:    striker.atmos.albany.edu
Address:  169.226.16.37

will troubleshoot things on striker.  If you are only REQUESTing the
NLDN feed, also let us know so we can troubleshoot.
I only request NLDN, and I'm not getting any data.

Tom
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Tom McDermott                305 Lennon Hall
Systems Administrator            Email: tmcderm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Department of the Earth Sciences    Phone: (585) 395-5718
The College at Brockport        Fax: (585) 395-2416
State University of New York


Here is a nice explanation of the difference between flashes and stokes:

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/electric/lightning2.html

"Lightning flashes and strokes

The term lightning flash is used to describe the entire discharge,
which takes on the order of 0.2 seconds. But a flash is usually made up
of several shorter discharges which last less than a millisecond and
which repeat rapidly enough that the eye cannot resolve the multiple
events. These individual discharges are called strokes. Sometimes the
strokes are separated enough in time for the eye to resolve them, and
the lightning appears to flicker."

Cheers,

Tom

On 12/02/2015 11:01 AM, Pete Pokrandt wrote:
Something about how your allow is configured maybe? Maybe something
hard-wired in the ldm on striker that Tom put in when getting this
up and running? Or something in the hosts file messing with DNS resolution?

My request to you looks like this:

REQUEST         NLDN    ".*"    striker.atmos.albany.edu

[should probably change that from NLDN to LIGHTNING if that's the convention
now, but doesn't seem to be the issue..]

Pete


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________________________________________
From: Tyle, Kevin R <ktyle@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2015 11:55 AM
To: Harry Edmon; Pete Pokrandt; Arthur A Person; Larry D. Oolman
Cc: ldm-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Daes Support; Tom Yoksas
Subject: RE: [ldm-users] NLDN feed back up, but moved - was Re: NLDN feed down

Thanks all for the reports.

Looking at our ldmd.log, I notice that for each client that is connecting,
we see lines like this:

Dec  2 17:31:38 striker <snip>.edu(f[11638] NOTE: topo: <snip>.edu
{{LIGHTNING, (^((localhost|loopback)|(127\.0\.0\.1\.?$)))}}

Perhaps some LDM experts can comment, but the last part (i.e. the part with
"localhost, loopback, 127.0.0.1") doesn't seem right.  At least we don't see
similar entries on our LDM logs on cascade.atmos.albany.edu (which
requests/feeds the vast majority of our non-NLDN products) ...

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-----Original Message-----
From: Harry Edmon [mailto:harry@xxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2015 12:35 PM
To: Pete Pokrandt <poker@xxxxxxxxxxxx>; Tyle, Kevin R <ktyle@xxxxxxxxxx>;
Arthur A Person <aap1@xxxxxxx>; Larry D. Oolman <ldoolman@xxxxxxxx>
Cc: ldm-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Daes Support <daessupport@xxxxxxxxxx>; Tom
Yoksas <yoksas@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [ldm-users] NLDN feed back up, but moved - was Re: NLDN feed down

I am also seeing the same thing.   I do a "kill -USR2" on the ldmd process
connected to striker, and it never logs anything.   But running notifyme on the
same machine lists products from striker.

On 12/02/15 09:27, Pete Pokrandt wrote:
I see the same thing. I see products shown on striker if I do a notifyme, e.g.

[ldm@idd ~]$ notifyme -v -l - -h striker.atmos.albany.edu -f NLDN Dec
02 17:24:08 notifyme[34064] NOTE: Starting Up:
striker.atmos.albany.edu: 20151202172408.128 TS_ENDT {{LIGHTNING,
".*"}} Dec 02 17:24:08 notifyme[34064] NOTE: LDM-5 desired
product-class: 20151202172408.128 TS_ENDT {{LIGHTNING, ".*"}} Dec 02
17:24:08 notifyme[34064] INFO: Resolving striker.atmos.albany.edu to
169.226.16.37 took 0.005686 seconds Dec 02 17:24:08 notifyme[34064] NOTE:
NOTIFYME(striker.atmos.albany.edu): OK
Dec 02 17:25:09 notifyme[34064] INFO:       84 20151202172440.789 LIGHTNING
000  2015336172440
Dec 02 17:26:09 notifyme[34064] INFO:       84 20151202172540.949 LIGHTNING
000  2015336172540


but a similar notifyme from another aos.wisc.edu machine to
idd.aos.wisc.edu shows nothing.

ldmadmin watch -f lightning on idd.aos.wisc.edu similarly shows no products
coming through. Strange..

Pete


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From: ldm-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<ldm-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> on behalf of Tyle, Kevin R
<ktyle@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2015 11:09 AM
To: Arthur A Person; Larry D. Oolman
Cc: ldm-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Daes Support; Tom Yoksas
Subject: Re: [ldm-users] NLDN feed back up,     but moved - was Re: NLDN
feed down

Curious, we see the same thing when we REQUEST from striker from one of our
LDM client machines.  We connect ok, but on the client machine we see no
products coming through.

Is anyone receiving NLDN products from striker.atmos.albany.edu?  Tom Y,
how about you?

_____________________________________________
Kevin Tyle, Systems Administrator
Dept. of Atmospheric & Environmental Sciences University at Albany
Earth Science 235, 1400 Washington Avenue Albany, NY 12222
Email: ktyle@xxxxxxxxxx
Phone: 518-442-4578
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-----Original Message-----
From: ldm-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ldm-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Arthur A
Person
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2015 8:51 PM
To: Larry D. Oolman <ldoolman@xxxxxxxx>
Cc: ldm-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Daes Support <daessupport@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [ldm-users] NLDN feed back up, but moved - was Re: NLDN
feed down

Larry, David,

I'm having the same problem... WSI stuff is coming through via request
lines, but NLDN is not.  But notifyme pulls NLDN through okay.  I've tried
several variations on the request line thinking it's getting confused with
the WSI request line, but so far no luck.  I don't think I had this problem
before...

                 Art

----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry D. Oolman" <ldoolman@xxxxxxxx>
To: "Knight, David" <dknight@xxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: ldm-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Daes Support"
<daessupport@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, December 1, 2015 8:14:18 PM
Subject: Re: [ldm-users] NLDN feed back up,   but moved - was Re: NLDN
feed down
On 12/01/15 18:08, Larry D. Oolman wrote:
On 12/01/15 17:59, Larry D. Oolman wrote:
The data is available but it appears the pattern has changed from
YYYYjjjHHMMSS to YYYYmmddHHMMSS
Correction, I am seeing
(GLN1-ltg|USPLN1EX|USPLN1-ltg|NAPLN1|NAPLN1EX)-YYYY_mm_dd_HH_MM_SS.d
a
t
Need to proof better.  On striker I am seeing files like:
2015336010607
2015336010707
2015336010807
2015336010908

I am not seeing these on my server.

The other files are coming from WSI.

On 12/01/15 17:50, Knight, David wrote:
Hi Larry,
       Can you check to see it products are arriving now?
try
notifyme -xvl- -h striker.atmos.albany.edu -f NLDN also try the
same on your ingest machine.

I’m seeing
ldmd.log:Dec  2 00:20:46 striker weather.uwyo.edu(feed)[15619]
NOTE: Starting
Up(6.11.7/6): 20151201232045.064 TS_ENDT {{LIGHTNING,  ".*”}}

Thanks
David



On Dec 1, 2015, at 7:26 PM, Knight, David <dknight@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

There appears to be a problem. Thanks for the heads up.
Luckily not much lightning going on right now.


On Dec 1, 2015, at 7:02 PM, Larry D. Oolman <ldoolman@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

On 12/01/15 13:26, Knight, David wrote:
Hi all,

Thanks to the help of Tom Yoksas, and other Unidata staff, we
now have the NLDN feed available again. We also moved it to a new
computer.
Please change your request from
       striker2.atmos.albany.edu to
       striker.atmos.albany.edu

(note, the “2” has been removed from hostname)
I am not seeing any products coming through.

Products are now being sent out in 1 minute bins (instead of 6
minute) so the data will be a little more timely.

We also have the possibility of including both cloud to ground
and cloud to cloud data. Currently the feed contains only cloud
to ground strikes. Is this something you’d be interested in?
Would it break what you are doing now?
Both the one minute files and cloud to cloud would be great for us.
We forward lighting products to our research aircraft to
partially mitigate hazards of operating around convection.

David

On Nov 16, 2015, at 2:51 PM, Knight, David <dknight@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi all,
      The NLDN lightning feed from striker2 is currently not
working properly. It is sending out products, but since about
16Z 12 November those products have not contained any useful
data. It is a slow time of year, but there has been lightning since
Nov 12.
       We are working toward finding a solution to this problem.
In the mean time, you might want to use the USPLN/NAPLN/GLN data feed.
Thanks for your patience as we work to get NLDN going again.

David
David Knight
Department of Atmospheric and Environmental Sciences  Tel:
(518)-442-4204
University at Albany ES-228                         Fax: (518)-442-4494
Albany, NY 12222 Email: dknight@xxxxxxxxxx

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