Re: [ldm-users] 20151202: NLDN feed back up, but moved - was Re: NLDN feed down

Here is the pattern action we use for gempak decoding. I don’t think we changed
this for the new products

NLDN    
^([12][0-9][0-9][0-9]|[0-9][0-9])([0-3][0-9][0-9])([0-2][0-9])([0-5][0-9])([0-5][0-9])
        PIPE    -close /free/unidata/GEMPAK7/os/linux64/bin/dcnldn
        -m 25000 -s minute05
        -d /unidata/logs/dcnldn.log
        /nldn/nldnldmdata/gempak/YYYYMMDDHH_@@.gem

Don’t forget to use tabs not spaces ;)

David
> On Dec 2, 2015, at 2:57 PM, Pete Pokrandt <poker@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> We have data! Looks like my pqact line will need to be altered to handle the 
> new naming and/or 1 min data, but it's coming through.
> 
> Dec 02 19:47:27 notifyme[20367] INFO:       84 20151202194702.562 LIGHTNING 
> 000  2015336194702
> Dec 02 19:48:27 notifyme[20367] INFO:       84 20151202194802.716 LIGHTNING 
> 000  2015336194802
> Dec 02 19:49:27 notifyme[20367] INFO:       84 20151202194902.868 LIGHTNING 
> 000  2015336194902
> Dec 02 19:50:27 notifyme[20367] INFO:       84 20151202195003.012 LIGHTNING 
> 000  2015336195003
> Dec 02 19:51:27 notifyme[20367] INFO:       84 20151202195103.152 LIGHTNING 
> 000  2015336195103
> Dec 02 19:52:27 notifyme[20367] INFO:       84 20151202195203.296 LIGHTNING 
> 000  2015336195203
> Dec 02 19:53:27 notifyme[20367] INFO:       84 20151202195303.447 LIGHTNING 
> 000  2015336195303
> Dec 02 19:54:27 notifyme[20367] INFO:       84 20151202195403.603 LIGHTNING 
> 000  2015336195403
> Dec 02 19:55:28 notifyme[20367] INFO:       84 20151202195503.765 LIGHTNING 
> 000  2015336195503
> 
> in my gempak dir
> 
> -rw-r--r--. 1 ldm ldm  702976 Nov 12 05:11 15111210.gem
> -rw-r--r--. 1 ldm ldm  702976 Nov 12 06:18 15111212.gem
> -rw-r--r--. 1 ldm ldm  702976 Nov 12 09:00 15111214.gem
> -rw-r--r--. 1 ldm ldm  702976 Nov 12 09:24 15111215.gem
> -rw-r--r--. 1 ldm ldm  702976 Nov 12 10:52 15111216.gem
> -rw-r--r--. 1 ldm ldm  704000 Dec  2 13:54 11081722.gem
> -rw-r--r--. 1 ldm ldm  704000 Dec  2 13:54 16061815.gem
> -rw-r--r--. 1 ldm ldm  704000 Dec  2 13:54 87013003.gem
> 
> 
> Pete
> 
> 
> --
> Pete Pokrandt - Systems Programmer
> UW-Madison Dept of Atmospheric and Oceanic Sciences
> 608-262-3086  - poker@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
> 
> ________________________________________
> From: daessupport@xxxxxxxxxx <daessupport@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2015 1:50 PM
> To: Harry Edmon
> Cc: Daes Support; Tom McDermott; Tom Yoksas; Pete Pokrandt; Kevin Tyle; 
> Arthur A Person; Larry D. Oolman; ldm-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [ldm-users] 20151202: NLDN feed back up, but moved - was Re: 
> NLDN feed down
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Should be OK now. There was a bad allow line in our ldmd.conf,
> and I made a newbie mistake. When I copied the allow
> lines from striker2 to striker all the tabs got converted into spaces!
> Ooops!
> 
> Thanks for your patience with this,
> 
> David
> 
> p.s. let daessupport@xxxxxxxxxx know if your are getting data or not now.
> Thanks
> 
>> On Dec 2, 2015, at 2:30 PM, Harry Edmon <harry@xxxxxx> wrote:
>> 
>> Same here from freshair1.atmos.washington.edu and
>> freshair2.atmos.washington.edu.   Correct address for striker, only 
>> requesting
>> lightning from striker.
>> 
>> On 12/02/15 11:23, Tom McDermott wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Wed, 2 Dec 2015, Tom Yoksas wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Questions for everyone:
>>>> 
>>>> - what are your ldmd.conf REQUEST line(s) for LIGHTNING data?
>>> 
>>> Tom,
>>> 
>>> I just have 1 line (in other words, I don't get USPLN):
>>> 
>>> request    NLDN    ".*"    striker.atmos.albany.edu
>>> 
>>>> - what IP address does striker.atmos.albany.edu resolve to on
>>>> your LDM machines?
>>>> 
>>>> The correct name <-> IP mapping is:
>>>> 
>>>> stiker.atmos.albany.edu <-> 169.226.16.37
>>> 
>>> [393] vortex% nslookup striker.atmos.albany.edu
>>> Server:  adrisc1.admc.brockport.edu
>>> Address:  137.21.1.15
>>> 
>>> Non-authoritative answer:
>>> Name:    striker.atmos.albany.edu
>>> Address:  169.226.16.37
>>> 
>>> [394] vortex% nslookup 169.226.16.37
>>> Server:  adrisc1.admc.brockport.edu
>>> Address:  137.21.1.15
>>> 
>>> Name:    striker.atmos.albany.edu
>>> Address:  169.226.16.37
>>> 
>>>> will troubleshoot things on striker.  If you are only REQUESTing the
>>>> NLDN feed, also let us know so we can troubleshoot.
>>> 
>>> I only request NLDN, and I'm not getting any data.
>>> 
>>> Tom
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> Tom McDermott                305 Lennon Hall
>>> Systems Administrator            Email: tmcderm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Department of the Earth Sciences    Phone: (585) 395-5718
>>> The College at Brockport        Fax: (585) 395-2416
>>> State University of New York
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Here is a nice explanation of the difference between flashes and stokes:
>>>> 
>>>> http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/electric/lightning2.html
>>>> 
>>>> "Lightning flashes and strokes
>>>> 
>>>> The term lightning flash is used to describe the entire discharge,
>>>> which takes on the order of 0.2 seconds. But a flash is usually made up
>>>> of several shorter discharges which last less than a millisecond and
>>>> which repeat rapidly enough that the eye cannot resolve the multiple
>>>> events. These individual discharges are called strokes. Sometimes the
>>>> strokes are separated enough in time for the eye to resolve them, and
>>>> the lightning appears to flicker."
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> 
>>>> Tom
>>>> 
>>>> On 12/02/2015 11:01 AM, Pete Pokrandt wrote:
>>>>> Something about how your allow is configured maybe? Maybe something
>>>>> hard-wired in the ldm on striker that Tom put in when getting this
>>>>> up and running? Or something in the hosts file messing with DNS 
>>>>> resolution?
>>>>> 
>>>>> My request to you looks like this:
>>>>> 
>>>>> REQUEST         NLDN    ".*"    striker.atmos.albany.edu
>>>>> 
>>>>> [should probably change that from NLDN to LIGHTNING if that's the 
>>>>> convention
>>>>> now, but doesn't seem to be the issue..]
>>>>> 
>>>>> Pete
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> Pete Pokrandt - Systems Programmer
>>>>> UW-Madison Dept of Atmospheric and Oceanic Sciences
>>>>> 608-262-3086  - poker@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> ________________________________________
>>>>> From: Tyle, Kevin R <ktyle@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2015 11:55 AM
>>>>> To: Harry Edmon; Pete Pokrandt; Arthur A Person; Larry D. Oolman
>>>>> Cc: ldm-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Daes Support; Tom Yoksas
>>>>> Subject: RE: [ldm-users] NLDN feed back up, but moved - was Re: NLDN feed 
>>>>> down
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks all for the reports.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Looking at our ldmd.log, I notice that for each client that is connecting,
>>>>> we see lines like this:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Dec  2 17:31:38 striker <snip>.edu(f[11638] NOTE: topo: <snip>.edu
>>>>> {{LIGHTNING, (^((localhost|loopback)|(127\.0\.0\.1\.?$)))}}
>>>>> 
>>>>> Perhaps some LDM experts can comment, but the last part (i.e. the part 
>>>>> with
>>>>> "localhost, loopback, 127.0.0.1") doesn't seem right.  At least we don't 
>>>>> see
>>>>> similar entries on our LDM logs on cascade.atmos.albany.edu (which
>>>>> requests/feeds the vast majority of our non-NLDN products) ...
>>>>> 
>>>>> _____________________________________________
>>>>> Kevin Tyle, Systems Administrator
>>>>> Dept. of Atmospheric & Environmental Sciences
>>>>> University at Albany
>>>>> Earth Science 235, 1400 Washington Avenue
>>>>> Albany, NY 12222
>>>>> Email: ktyle@xxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Phone: 518-442-4578
>>>>> _____________________________________________
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Harry Edmon [mailto:harry@xxxxxx]
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2015 12:35 PM
>>>>> To: Pete Pokrandt <poker@xxxxxxxxxxxx>; Tyle, Kevin R <ktyle@xxxxxxxxxx>;
>>>>> Arthur A Person <aap1@xxxxxxx>; Larry D. Oolman <ldoolman@xxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Cc: ldm-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Daes Support <daessupport@xxxxxxxxxx>; Tom
>>>>> Yoksas <yoksas@xxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [ldm-users] NLDN feed back up, but moved - was Re: NLDN feed 
>>>>> down
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am also seeing the same thing.   I do a "kill -USR2" on the ldmd process
>>>>> connected to striker, and it never logs anything.   But running notifyme 
>>>>> on the
>>>>> same machine lists products from striker.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 12/02/15 09:27, Pete Pokrandt wrote:
>>>>>> I see the same thing. I see products shown on striker if I do a 
>>>>>> notifyme, e.g.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> [ldm@idd ~]$ notifyme -v -l - -h striker.atmos.albany.edu -f NLDN Dec
>>>>>> 02 17:24:08 notifyme[34064] NOTE: Starting Up:
>>>>>> striker.atmos.albany.edu: 20151202172408.128 TS_ENDT {{LIGHTNING,
>>>>>> ".*"}} Dec 02 17:24:08 notifyme[34064] NOTE: LDM-5 desired
>>>>>> product-class: 20151202172408.128 TS_ENDT {{LIGHTNING, ".*"}} Dec 02
>>>>>> 17:24:08 notifyme[34064] INFO: Resolving striker.atmos.albany.edu to
>>>>>> 169.226.16.37 took 0.005686 seconds Dec 02 17:24:08 notifyme[34064] NOTE:
>>>>>> NOTIFYME(striker.atmos.albany.edu): OK
>>>>>> Dec 02 17:25:09 notifyme[34064] INFO:       84 20151202172440.789 
>>>>>> LIGHTNING
>>>>>> 000  2015336172440
>>>>>> Dec 02 17:26:09 notifyme[34064] INFO:       84 20151202172540.949 
>>>>>> LIGHTNING
>>>>>> 000  2015336172540
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> but a similar notifyme from another aos.wisc.edu machine to
>>>>>> idd.aos.wisc.edu shows nothing.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ldmadmin watch -f lightning on idd.aos.wisc.edu similarly shows no 
>>>>>> products
>>>>>> coming through. Strange..
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Pete
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Pete Pokrandt - Systems Programmer
>>>>>> UW-Madison Dept of Atmospheric and Oceanic Sciences
>>>>>> 608-262-3086  - poker@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ________________________________________
>>>>>> From: ldm-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> <ldm-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> on behalf of Tyle, Kevin R
>>>>>> <ktyle@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2015 11:09 AM
>>>>>> To: Arthur A Person; Larry D. Oolman
>>>>>> Cc: ldm-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Daes Support; Tom Yoksas
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [ldm-users] NLDN feed back up,     but moved - was Re: NLDN
>>>>>> feed down
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Curious, we see the same thing when we REQUEST from striker from one of 
>>>>>> our
>>>>>> LDM client machines.  We connect ok, but on the client machine we see no
>>>>>> products coming through.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Is anyone receiving NLDN products from striker.atmos.albany.edu?  Tom Y,
>>>>>> how about you?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> _____________________________________________
>>>>>> Kevin Tyle, Systems Administrator
>>>>>> Dept. of Atmospheric & Environmental Sciences University at Albany
>>>>>> Earth Science 235, 1400 Washington Avenue Albany, NY 12222
>>>>>> Email: ktyle@xxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> Phone: 518-442-4578
>>>>>> _____________________________________________
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: ldm-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> [mailto:ldm-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Arthur A
>>>>>> Person
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2015 8:51 PM
>>>>>> To: Larry D. Oolman <ldoolman@xxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> Cc: ldm-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Daes Support <daessupport@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [ldm-users] NLDN feed back up, but moved - was Re: NLDN
>>>>>> feed down
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Larry, David,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'm having the same problem... WSI stuff is coming through via request
>>>>>> lines, but NLDN is not.  But notifyme pulls NLDN through okay.  I've 
>>>>>> tried
>>>>>> several variations on the request line thinking it's getting confused 
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> the WSI request line, but so far no luck.  I don't think I had this 
>>>>>> problem
>>>>>> before...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>                Art
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Larry D. Oolman" <ldoolman@xxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> To: "Knight, David" <dknight@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> Cc: ldm-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Daes Support"
>>>>>>> <daessupport@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 1, 2015 8:14:18 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [ldm-users] NLDN feed back up,   but moved - was Re: NLDN
>>>>>>> feed down
>>>>>>> On 12/01/15 18:08, Larry D. Oolman wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 12/01/15 17:59, Larry D. Oolman wrote:
>>>>>>>>> The data is available but it appears the pattern has changed from
>>>>>>>>> YYYYjjjHHMMSS to YYYYmmddHHMMSS
>>>>>>>> Correction, I am seeing
>>>>>>>> (GLN1-ltg|USPLN1EX|USPLN1-ltg|NAPLN1|NAPLN1EX)-YYYY_mm_dd_HH_MM_SS.d
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> t
>>>>>>> Need to proof better.  On striker I am seeing files like:
>>>>>>> 2015336010607
>>>>>>> 2015336010707
>>>>>>> 2015336010807
>>>>>>> 2015336010908
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I am not seeing these on my server.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The other files are coming from WSI.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 12/01/15 17:50, Knight, David wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Larry,
>>>>>>>>>>      Can you check to see it products are arriving now?
>>>>>>>>>> try
>>>>>>>>>> notifyme -xvl- -h striker.atmos.albany.edu -f NLDN also try the
>>>>>>>>>> same on your ingest machine.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I’m seeing
>>>>>>>>>> ldmd.log:Dec  2 00:20:46 striker weather.uwyo.edu(feed)[15619]
>>>>>>>>>> NOTE: Starting
>>>>>>>>>> Up(6.11.7/6): 20151201232045.064 TS_ENDT {{LIGHTNING,  ".*”}}
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>> David
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 1, 2015, at 7:26 PM, Knight, David <dknight@xxxxxxxxxx> 
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> There appears to be a problem. Thanks for the heads up.
>>>>>>>>>>> Luckily not much lightning going on right now.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 1, 2015, at 7:02 PM, Larry D. Oolman <ldoolman@xxxxxxxx> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/01/15 13:26, Knight, David wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks to the help of Tom Yoksas, and other Unidata staff, we
>>>>>>>>>>>>> now have the NLDN feed available again. We also moved it to a new
>>>>>>>>>>>>> computer.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please change your request from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>      striker2.atmos.albany.edu to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>      striker.atmos.albany.edu
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (note, the “2” has been removed from hostname)
>>>>>>>>>>>> I am not seeing any products coming through.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Products are now being sent out in 1 minute bins (instead of 6
>>>>>>>>>>>>> minute) so the data will be a little more timely.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> We also have the possibility of including both cloud to ground
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and cloud to cloud data. Currently the feed contains only cloud
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to ground strikes. Is this something you’d be interested in?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would it break what you are doing now?
>>>>>>>>>>>> Both the one minute files and cloud to cloud would be great for us.
>>>>>>>>>>>> We forward lighting products to our research aircraft to
>>>>>>>>>>>> partially mitigate hazards of operating around convection.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> David
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 16, 2015, at 2:51 PM, Knight, David <dknight@xxxxxxxxxx> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     The NLDN lightning feed from striker2 is currently not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> working properly. It is sending out products, but since about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 16Z 12 November those products have not contained any useful
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> data. It is a slow time of year, but there has been lightning 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> since
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nov 12.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>      We are working toward finding a solution to this problem.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In the mean time, you might want to use the USPLN/NAPLN/GLN data 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> feed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for your patience as we work to get NLDN going again.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David
>>>>>>>>>>>>> David Knight
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Department of Atmospheric and Environmental Sciences  Tel:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (518)-442-4204
>>>>>>>>>>>>> University at Albany ES-228                         Fax: 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (518)-442-4494
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Albany, NY 12222 Email: dknight@xxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ldm-users mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ldm-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>> For list information or to unsubscribe, visit:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.unidata.ucar.edu/mailing_lists/
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Larry Oolman
>>>>>>>>>>>> Department of Atmospheric Science University of Wyoming Dept.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 3038, 1000 E. University Ave.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Laramie, WY 82071
>>>>>>>>>>>> ldoolman@xxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.uwyo.edu/atsc
>>>>>>>>>>> David Knight
>>>>>>>>>>> Dept. of Atmospheric and Environmental Sciences Tel: (518)-442-4204
>>>>>>>>>>> University at Albany, ES-228 Fax: (518)-442-4494
>>>>>>>>>>> Albany, NY  12222 Email: dknight@xxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> David Knight
>>>>>>>>>> Dept. of Atmospheric and Environmental Sciences Tel: (518)-442-4204
>>>>>>>>>> University at Albany, ES-228 Fax: (518)-442-4494
>>>>>>>>>> Albany, NY  12222 Email: dknight@xxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Larry Oolman
>>>>>>> Department of Atmospheric Science
>>>>>>> University of Wyoming
>>>>>>> Dept. 3038, 1000 E. University Ave.
>>>>>>> Laramie, WY 82071
>>>>>>> ldoolman@xxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> http://www.uwyo.edu/atsc
>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Arthur A. Person
>>>>>> Research Assistant, System Administrator Penn State Department of
>>>>>> Meteorology
>>>>>> email:  aap1@xxxxxxx, phone:  814-863-1563
>>>>>> 
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>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> Dr. Harry Edmon
>>>>> harry@xxxxxx, 206-543-0547, FAX: 206-543-0308 Director of IT, College of 
>>>>> the
>>>>> Environment and Director of Computing, Dept of Atmospheric Sciences
>>>>> University of Washington, Box 351640, Seattle, WA 98195-1640
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> +----------------------------------------------------------------------+
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>>>> * (303) 497-8642 (last resort)                           P.O. Box 3000 *
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>> --
>> Dr. Harry Edmon
>> harry@xxxxxx, 206-543-0547, FAX: 206-543-0308
>> Director of IT, College of the Environment and
>> Director of Computing, Dept of Atmospheric Sciences
>> University of Washington, Box 351640, Seattle, WA 98195-1640
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