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-Roy On Apr 20, 2009, at 12:27 PM, Jon Blower wrote:
Hi Ben, Perhaps you (or someone else) could identify some key datasets that could be installed along with TDS on the CCIP machines? Perhaps some climatologies or weather forecasts? I know that CCIP has something of an Australian focus (since FOSS4G is in Oz this year) and that TDS is popular in Australia. The CCIP guys are particularly looking for freely-available data that could be licensed under Creative Commons or something similar. Also, don't forget that TDS now has a WMS interface too! ;-) Cheers, JonOn Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 8:20 PM, Ben Domenico <Ben@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:Hi George,If I understand your suggestion, something like our THREDDS Data Server which includes a WCS interface to many different types of environmental datawould be appropriate. The TDS homepage is at: http://www.unidata.ucar.edu/projects/THREDDS/tech/TDS.htmlWe have our own prototype TDS at Unidata serving a wide variety of real-timeweather data. The html interface is at: http://www.unidata.ucar.edu/projects/THREDDS/tech/TDS.html There is another TDS at the NOAA Pacific Fisheries Lab: http://oceanwatch.pfeg.noaa.gov/thredds/catalog.html and another at the US National Climatic Data Center: http://nomads.ncdc.noaa.gov/thredds/catalog.htmlThere are quite a few other, but those should provide a sense of what's available and what can be done with the TDS and what can and can't be done with WCS(yet). These servers illustrate the type of data and services we are attempting to provide via OGC interfaces. We've made progress in thelimited set that can be served via WCS. And the proposed CF-netCDF extension to WCS is a big step in that direction.Even so, I'm not sure what it would mean to participate in CCIP. It would be possible to implement a TDS on the CCIP server, but none of our datasets are there so that doesn't make sense. And travel expenses are always an issue in terms of participating in the meetings themselves to demonstrateclients using TDS servers. -- Ben On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 10:00 AM, George Percivall <gpercivall@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:Ben,OSGeo and OGC have a complimentary and productive relationship based uponan MOU between the two organizations.A great example of the collaboration is at the next FOSS4G run by OSGeo, OGC will be leading a Climate Change Integration Plugfest (CCIP). The CCIPwill demonstrate standards based interoperability between geospatial applications based on a Climate Change scenario. http://www.osgeo.org/news/2009/01/FOSS4G_Integration http://www.opengeospatial.org/pressroom/pressreleases/951The GALEON community could interact with OSGeo in many ways here are acouple of suggestions: 1) participate in the CCIP.2) identify an open-source project that implements OGC standards, e.g.,WCS, as an OSGeo Project. OSGeo has a process and resources forcommunity development of open-source geospatial software. There are severalexamples of OSGeo projects implementing OGC specifications.OSGeo projects implementing OGC specifications has been successful in thepast and it may be appropriate in the GALEON context.Relevant to this is the motion approved at the OGC meeting this month: "Web Coverage Service Standards Working Group release of NetCDF extension" The OGC Members approved release of 09-018 Web Coverage Service (WCS)extension for CF-netCDF encoding, 1.0 as an OGC Discussion Paper• This extension of the WCS standard specifies an Information Community data model with the related encoding that may optionally be implemented by WCS servers. This extension enables clients to evaluate, request and usedata encoded in CF-netCDF3 format from a WCS server. Document 09-018 is posted here: http://portal.opengeospatial.org/files/?artifact_id=32195 Regards, George On Apr 13, 2009, at 7:18 PM, Gerry Creager wrote: I certainly believe the GALEON community would benefit, and that theFOSS4G community would, as well. I suspect a similar statement can be madewith THREDDS, as well.The main limitation of GDAL for NetCDF is based in the lack of requests to extend the support, and the potential to fund said updates when critiaclmass is finally achieved.I didn't get to attend the last OGC TC, but I suspect there were plenty ofother FOSS4G advocates there.I was involved in some of the original FOSS4G organizational efforts but didn't have the time to allow me to participate to any great extent. That said, it appears to be a good organization with a lot of potential tosupport and nurture projects.Unidata, however, is also nurturing THREDDS. There's likely be a little friction, but I strongly suspect that once the initial "dancing" is done,the benefits to both communities would be visible. gerry Roy Mendelssohn wrote: Hi Ben:I do not know about FOSS4G per se, but the major sponsor of it appears to be OSGeo (http://www.osgeo.org/). They are responsible for Mapserver and Geotools and most importantly GDAL. GDAL is a nice tool for converting between formats, and supports Netcdf and OpeNDAP, at least partially (I can't remember if it is limited in dimensions with netcdf), and provides the conversion for Mapserver. Conversations about supporting netcdf4 orrelated things would strike me as valuable. -Roy On Apr 13, 2009, at 2:15 PM, Ben Domenico wrote: Hi again,Periodically, I get a suggestion that GALEON and THREDDS would be good candidates for participation in the Free and Open Source Software for Geospatial (FOSS4G) movement, initiative, project, community, or whatever itis. I briefly looked into it one time earlier http://sites.google.com/site/galeonteam/Home/GALEON%20Phase2%20Main%20Page/Unidata%20OGC%20Interoperability%20Day%20Presentations but it came up at the recent OGC TC again. Do any of you have any experience with, thoughts on, or suggestionsregarding whether participating in FOSS4G would indeed be an effective approach to furthering our particular -- implementation-oriented approach tointeroperability? -- Ben _______________________________________________ galeon mailing list galeon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx For list information, to unsubscribe, visit: http://www.unidata.ucar.edu/mailing_lists/ **********************"The contents of this message do not reflect any position of the U.S.Government or NOAA." ********************** Roy Mendelssohn Supervisory Operations Research Analyst NOAA/NMFS Environmental Research Division Southwest Fisheries Science Center 1352 Lighthouse Avenue Pacific Grove, CA 93950-2097 e-mail: Roy.Mendelssohn@xxxxxxxx (Note new e-mail address) voice: (831)-648-9029 fax: (831)-648-8440 www: http://www.pfeg.noaa.gov/ "Old age and treachery will overcome youth and skill." 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********************** Roy Mendelssohn Supervisory Operations Research Analyst NOAA/NMFS Environmental Research Division Southwest Fisheries Science Center 1352 Lighthouse Avenue Pacific Grove, CA 93950-2097 e-mail: Roy.Mendelssohn@xxxxxxxx (Note new e-mail address) voice: (831)-648-9029 fax: (831)-648-8440 www: http://www.pfeg.noaa.gov/ "Old age and treachery will overcome youth and skill." "From those who have been given much, much will be expected"
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