Re: [Data-curation] Usage of incorrect WMO source codes, does anybody care? :)

  • To: "Boris A. Konon" <trwplusa@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Subject: Re: [Data-curation] Usage of incorrect WMO source codes, does anybody care? :)
  • From: Paul Fajman <paul.fajman@xxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2017 16:32:07 -0400
Boris,

After a reorganization of the NWS, some offices were given new identifiers.
KTUR and KATR were the old RFC identifiers for Tulsa and Peachtree City.
KALR and KTUA should be the current assignments for those 2 RFCs. If you
could point me to any specific products, I'll bring it to the offending
office's attention.

Paul

On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 1:11 PM, Boris A. Konon <trwplusa@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Along the same lines, does anyone know why the RFCs at Peachtree City and
> Tulsa
> have two source identifiers?  I haven't checked recently, but I believe
> one is used
> in a product's WMO header and the other is used in the second line AWIPS
> code.
>
> KALR and KATR for Peachtree City
> KTUA and KTUR for Tulsa
>
> All other RFCs use one identifier.
>
> Boris
>
> On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 9:43 AM, Rodger R. Getz <rgetz@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Daryl-
>>
>> Yes, we care too! We’ve always seen these sort issues over the years and
>> usually report it to the offending office. Since we are private sector, we
>> usually are ignored. We end up having to put in extra code in our
>> scripts/programs to handle these sort of exceptions. If you want to get
>> really frustrated, let’s talk about SHEF coded products! That’s been around
>> since the mid 1980s and they still can’t get it right.
>>
>> Rodger
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>> On Aug 3, 2017, at 9:52 AM, daryl herzmann <akrherz@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> Greetings,
>>
>> I have a strange fixation for 100% fidelity of parsing text products
>> found on NOAAPort/SBN.  As a part of that process, I attempt to properly
>> associate a text product with its issuance center.  I base the issuance
>> center on the 4-character code used within the WMO header found with each
>> product.  Each day, I have a process email me a listing of 4-character
>> codes that are 'unknown' to my database.  For example, here's a product
>> from yesterday from KFAT
>>
>> CSUS46 KFAT 021943
>> HYMHNX
>>
>> MONTHLY PRECIPITATION FOR THE SAN JOAQUIN VALLEY AND THE SOUTHERN SIERRA
>> JULY 2017
>>
>> .BR HNX 0731 P DH24/PPM
>>
>> ASHC1 M     :  ASH MOUNTAIN
>> ...snipped...
>>
>> In a previous lifetime as a NOAA contractor, I provided NWS HQ Data
>> Management with a listing of incorrect WMO source codes used within
>> products and what I believe the correct code should be.  In this example,
>> it should be KHNX.  Anyway, it took two years and a gigantic effort just to
>> get a handful of Alaska climate products corrected and a hurricane center
>> product coming from KMIA removed, so I don't have much hope that the others
>> will be corrected.
>>
>> Does anybody else here care about this situation?  hehe, perhaps I should
>> just 'get a life' as the kids like to say these days. :)
>>
>> daryl
>>
>>
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>> * Systems Analyst III -- Iowa Environmental Mesonet
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