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19990121: missing data...



Maureen,

Our decoder output matches what you have shown below.
Basically there are 3 stations with missing temperatures
KOWB (every hour that they report) and KLOU and KEHR once each.

What you will find is that for these stations, you have received 
their reports...and that TMPF isn't being stored for these reports.
If you use sfparm=tmpf;altm;text for example, you will see that there
are altimeter reports for Owensboro- even when no temp is stored.

On further examination of the KOWB report (note that they shut down between
5Z and 11Z) shows that they all have something in common in their temperature
report, eg:
KOWB 211945Z 17005KT 5SM BR SCT025 OVC040 18/ A2978=
                                           ^
                                           |
                                         TT/TdTd

OWB is reporting a temperature of 18C and not reporting a missing dewpoint.
The NWS code for decoding the METAR expects a missing dewpoint to
be included as MM, ie 18/MM, and therefore is not decoding the temparature
since it believes that this is an invalid format. I have fixed that
case in the decoder now.

In the case of KLOU, they actually did not report a temperature group
in their observation at that one hour, which is why the value is
stored as -9999.00.

I have posted 2 more updates in the gbuddy ftp area under
~gbuddy/nawips-5.4/patches/dcdmetar.c and dcdmtrmk.c

You can download these two routines and place in:
$GEMPAKHOME/src/bridge/metar

then update your copy of dchrly-

cd $GEMPAKHOME/src/bridge/metar
make clean
make
make clean

cd $GEMPAKHOME/src/programs/dc/dchrly
make clean
make all
make install
make clean

If you have more specific instances of reports that the decoder is not capable
of decoding, please let me know.

Steve Chiswell



>From: Maureen Ballard <address@hidden>
>Organization: UK Ag Weather Center
>Keywords: 199901211651.JAA14841

>Steve,
>
>Our main concern is with Kentucky since that is where we are so I am going to
>talking mainly about KY even though the problem most likely extends to other
>states. We are not presently keeping the raw data - it all goes through the dc
> hrly
>decoder to be stored and used in GEMPAK (since that is the only application we
>  are
>presently using). Over the last 2 days, we are missing any where from 23 to 65
>observations from the 15 observing points in KY. Surprisingly enough, Henderso
> n
>(EHR) and Hopkinsville (HOP) have their entire data set. The other stations ar
> e
>missing as many as 10 observations in the 2 day period.
>
>Here is a list of the stations with temperature data for yesterday (1/20/99)
>through 16Z today (1/21/99):
>
> PARM = TMPF
>
>
>    STN  YYMMDD/HHMM      TMPF
>    SDF    990121/0000     55.90
>    BWG    990121/0000     54.00
>    EHR    990121/0000     48.20
>    FFT    990121/0000     46.90
>    FTK    990121/0000     53.60
>    HOP    990121/0000     57.20
>    JKL    990121/0000     55.90
>    LOU    990121/0000     53.60
>    LOZ    990121/0000     54.00
>    OWB    990121/0000  -9999.00
>    PAH    990121/0000     55.00
>    SME    990121/0000     55.40
>    BWG    990121/0100     51.10
>    EHR    990121/0100     44.60
>    FFT    990121/0100     46.00
>    FTK    990121/0100     48.20
>    HOP    990121/0100     57.20
>    LOU    990121/0100     50.00
>    LOZ    990121/0100     51.10
>    OWB    990121/0100  -9999.00
>    SME    990121/0100     51.80
>    BWG    990121/0200     55.90
>    EHR    990121/0200     42.80
>    FFT    990121/0200     45.00
>    FTK    990121/0200     50.00
>    HOP    990121/0200     55.40
>    LOU    990121/0200     48.20
>    LOZ    990121/0200     50.00
>    OWB    990121/0200  -9999.00
>    SME    990121/0200     50.00
>    BWG    990121/0300     52.00
>    EHR    990121/0300     44.60
>    FTK    990121/0300     50.00
>    HOP    990121/0300     53.60
>    LOU    990121/0300     48.20
>    OWB    990121/0300  -9999.00
>    SME    990121/0300     48.20
>    LEX    990121/0400     48.90
>    SDF    990121/0400     50.00
>    BWG    990121/0400     51.10
>    CVG    990121/0400     46.90
>    EHR    990121/0400     46.40
>    FTK    990121/0400     50.00
>    HOP    990121/0400     53.60
>    JKL    990121/0400     53.10
>    LOU    990121/0400     51.80
>    LOZ    990121/0400     48.00
>    OWB    990121/0400  -9999.00
>    PAH    990121/0400     51.10
>    SME    990121/0400     46.40
>    SDF    990121/0500     48.90
>    CVG    990121/0500     46.00
>    EHR    990121/0500     48.20
>    FTK    990121/0500     48.20
>    HOP    990121/0500     55.40
>    JKL    990121/0500     53.10
>    LOU    990121/0500     46.40
>    OWB    990121/0500  -9999.00
>    PAH    990121/0500     54.00
>    LEX    990121/0600     48.00
>    SDF    990121/0600     48.00
>    CVG    990121/0600     46.00
>    EHR    990121/0600     46.40
>    FTK    990121/0600     48.20
>    HOP    990121/0600     57.20
>    JKL    990121/0600     52.00
>    LOU    990121/0600     50.00
>    PAH    990121/0600     57.00
>    SME    990121/0600     51.80
>    LEX    990121/0700     48.90
>    SDF    990121/0700     48.90
>    BWG    990121/0700     48.90
>    CVG    990121/0700     46.00
>    EHR    990121/0700     51.80
>    FTK    990121/0700     50.00
>    HOP    990121/0700     57.20
>    JKL    990121/0700     51.10
>    LOU    990121/0700     50.00
>    PAH    990121/0700     55.90
>    SME    990121/0700     53.60
>    BWG    990121/0800     55.90
>    EHR    990121/0800     51.80
>    FFT    990121/0800     48.90
>    FTK    990121/0800     51.80
>    HOP    990121/0800     57.20
>    LOU    990121/0800     48.20
>    LOZ    990121/0800     51.10
>    SME    990121/0800     55.40
>    SDF    990121/0900     50.00
>    BWG    990121/0900     59.00
>    CVG    990121/0900     46.00
>    EHR    990121/0900     51.80
>    FFT    990121/0900     50.00
>    FTK    990121/0900     51.80
>    HOP    990121/0900     57.20
>    JKL    990121/0900     51.10
>    LOU    990121/0900     50.00
>    LOZ    990121/0900     54.00
>    PAH    990121/0900     59.00
>    SME    990121/0900     55.40
>    LEX    990121/1000     52.00
>    SDF    990121/1000     51.10
>    CVG    990121/1000     46.00
>    EHR    990121/1000     53.60
>    FFT    990121/1000     50.00
>    FTK    990121/1000     53.60
>    HOP    990121/1000     59.00
>    JKL    990121/1000     53.10
>    LOU    990121/1000     51.80
>    LOZ    990121/1000     55.00
>    PAH    990121/1000     60.10
>    SME    990121/1000     57.20
>    BWG    990121/1100     59.00
>    EHR    990121/1100     53.60
>    FFT    990121/1100     52.00
>    FTK    990121/1100     53.60
>    HOP    990121/1100     60.80
>    LOU    990121/1100  -9999.00
>    LOZ    990121/1100     54.00
>    SME    990121/1100     57.20
>    LEX    990121/1200     54.00
>    SDF    990121/1200     48.90
>    BWG    990121/1200     59.00
>    CVG    990121/1200     46.00
>    EHR    990121/1200     53.60
>    FFT    990121/1200     51.10
>    FTK    990121/1200     55.40
>    HOP    990121/1200     59.00
>    JKL    990121/1200     55.00
>    LOU    990121/1200     50.00
>    LOZ    990121/1200     55.90
>    OWB    990121/1200  -9999.00
>    PAH    990121/1200     59.00
>    SME    990121/1200     57.20
>    LEX    990121/1300     55.00
>    SDF    990121/1300     50.00
>    BWG    990121/1300     60.10
>    CVG    990121/1300     46.00
>    EHR    990121/1300     53.60
>    FFT    990121/1300     51.10
>    FTK    990121/1300     57.20
>    HOP    990121/1300     62.60
>    JKL    990121/1300     53.10
>    LOU    990121/1300     51.80
>    LOZ    990121/1300     57.90
>    OWB    990121/1300  -9999.00
>    PAH    990121/1300     59.00
>    LEX    990121/1400     55.90
>    SDF    990121/1400     50.00
>    BWG    990121/1400     61.00
>    CVG    990121/1400     46.90
>    EHR    990121/1400     51.80
>    FFT    990121/1400     52.00
>    FTK    990121/1400     59.00
>    HOP    990121/1400     64.40
>    JKL    990121/1400     55.00
>    LOU    990121/1400     51.80
>    LOZ    990121/1400     57.90
>    OWB    990121/1400  -9999.00
>    PAH    990121/1400     60.10
>    SME    990121/1400     60.80
>    LEX    990121/1500     57.90
>    SDF    990121/1500     52.00
>    BWG    990121/1500     61.00
>    CVG    990121/1500     46.90
>    EHR    990121/1500     53.60
>    FFT    990121/1500     53.10
>    FTK    990121/1500     59.00
>    HOP    990121/1500     64.40
>    JKL    990121/1500     55.90
>    LOU    990121/1500     51.80
>    LOZ    990121/1500     59.00
>    OWB    990121/1500  -9999.00
>    PAH    990121/1500     61.00
>    SME    990121/1500     62.60
>    SDF    990121/1600     54.00
>    BWG    990121/1600     63.00
>    CVG    990121/1600     48.00
>    FFT    990121/1600     57.90
>    FTK    990121/1600     60.80
>    HOP    990121/1600     66.20
>    JKL    990121/1600     60.10
>    LOU    990121/1600     55.40
>    LOZ    990121/1600     60.10
>    OWB    990121/1600  -9999.00
>    PAH    990121/1600     63.00
>    SME    990121/1600     64.40
>
>    LEX    990120/0000     46.90
>    SDF    990120/0000     48.00
>    BWG    990120/0000     46.90
>    CVG    990120/0000     46.00
>    EHR    990120/0000  -9999.00
>    FFT    990120/0000     46.90
>    FTK    990120/0000     50.00
>    HOP    990120/0000     55.40
>    JKL    990120/0000     50.00
>    LOU    990120/0000     48.20
>    LOZ    990120/0000     48.90
>    OWB    990120/0000  -9999.00
>    PAH    990120/0000     54.00
>    SME    990120/0000     50.00
>    LEX    990120/0100     45.00
>    SDF    990120/0100     48.00
>    BWG    990120/0100     46.00
>    CVG    990120/0100     46.00
>    EHR    990120/0100     51.80
>    FFT    990120/0100     45.00
>    FTK    990120/0100     50.00
>    HOP    990120/0100     55.40
>    JKL    990120/0100     48.90
>    LOU    990120/0100     48.20
>    LOZ    990120/0100     48.00
>    OWB    990120/0100  -9999.00
>    PAH    990120/0100     55.00
>    SME    990120/0100     48.20
>    LEX    990120/0200     45.00
>    SDF    990120/0200     48.00
>    BWG    990120/0200     48.90
>    CVG    990120/0200     44.10
>    EHR    990120/0200     48.20
>    FFT    990120/0200     45.00
>    FTK    990120/0200     50.00
>    HOP    990120/0200     55.40
>    JKL    990120/0200     48.00
>    LOU    990120/0200     50.00
>    LOZ    990120/0200     46.90
>    OWB    990120/0200  -9999.00
>    PAH    990120/0200     53.10
>    SME    990120/0200     46.40
>    LEX    990120/0300     43.00
>    SDF    990120/0300     46.90
>    BWG    990120/0300     50.00
>    CVG    990120/0300     44.10
>    EHR    990120/0300     44.60
>    FFT    990120/0300     45.00
>    FTK    990120/0300     50.00
>    HOP    990120/0300     55.40
>    JKL    990120/0300     46.90
>    LOU    990120/0300     50.00
>    LOZ    990120/0300     45.00
>    OWB    990120/0300  -9999.00
>    PAH    990120/0300     52.00
>    SME    990120/0300     46.40
>    LEX    990120/0400     45.00
>    SDF    990120/0400     46.90
>    BWG    990120/0400     45.00
>    CVG    990120/0400     43.00
>    EHR    990120/0400     44.60
>    FFT    990120/0400     46.00
>    FTK    990120/0400     50.00
>    HOP    990120/0400     53.60
>    JKL    990120/0400     46.90
>    LOU    990120/0400     48.20
>    LOZ    990120/0400     41.00
>    OWB    990120/0400  -9999.00
>    PAH    990120/0400     53.10
>    SME    990120/0400     46.40
>    LEX    990120/0500     46.00
>    SDF    990120/0500     46.90
>    BWG    990120/0500     46.00
>    CVG    990120/0500     41.00
>    EHR    990120/0500     42.80
>    FFT    990120/0500     43.00
>    FTK    990120/0500     46.40
>    HOP    990120/0500     53.60
>    JKL    990120/0500     48.00
>    LOU    990120/0500     46.40
>    LOZ    990120/0500     42.10
>    PAH    990120/0500     52.00
>    SME    990120/0500     46.40
>    LEX    990120/0600     45.00
>    SDF    990120/0600     46.00
>    BWG    990120/0600     46.90
>    CVG    990120/0600     41.00
>    EHR    990120/0600     44.60
>    FFT    990120/0600     45.00
>    FTK    990120/0600     44.60
>    HOP    990120/0600     53.60
>    JKL    990120/0600     48.00
>    LOU    990120/0600     46.40
>    LOZ    990120/0600     45.00
>    PAH    990120/0600     51.10
>    SME    990120/0600     48.20
>    LEX    990120/0700     46.00
>    SDF    990120/0700     44.10
>    BWG    990120/0700     46.00
>    CVG    990120/0700     39.00
>    EHR    990120/0700     46.40
>    FFT    990120/0700     44.10
>    FTK    990120/0700     42.80
>    HOP    990120/0700     53.60
>    JKL    990120/0700     48.00
>    LOU    990120/0700     46.40
>    LOZ    990120/0700     44.10
>    PAH    990120/0700     42.10
>    SME    990120/0700     48.20
>    LEX    990120/0800     43.00
>    SDF    990120/0800     43.00
>    BWG    990120/0800     46.90
>    CVG    990120/0800     39.90
>    EHR    990120/0800     41.00
>    FFT    990120/0800     43.00
>    FTK    990120/0800     41.00
>    HOP    990120/0800     48.20
>    JKL    990120/0800     48.00
>    LOU    990120/0800     42.80
>    LOZ    990120/0800     43.00
>    PAH    990120/0800     43.00
>    SME    990120/0800     48.20
>    LEX    990120/0900     43.00
>    SDF    990120/0900     43.00
>    BWG    990120/0900     45.00
>    CVG    990120/0900     39.00
>    EHR    990120/0900     39.20
>    FFT    990120/0900     39.90
>    FTK    990120/0900     42.80
>    HOP    990120/0900     41.00
>    JKL    990120/0900     44.10
>    LOU    990120/0900     44.60
>    LOZ    990120/0900     41.00
>    PAH    990120/0900     39.00
>    SME    990120/0900     44.60
>    LEX    990120/1000     42.10
>    SDF    990120/1000     42.10
>    BWG    990120/1000     41.00
>    CVG    990120/1000     39.00
>    EHR    990120/1000     37.40
>    FFT    990120/1000     41.00
>    FTK    990120/1000     42.80
>    HOP    990120/1000     42.80
>    JKL    990120/1000     39.90
>    LOU    990120/1000     42.80
>    LOZ    990120/1000     41.00
>    PAH    990120/1000     37.00
>    SME    990120/1000     44.60
>    LEX    990120/1100     42.10
>    SDF    990120/1100     41.00
>    BWG    990120/1100     42.10
>    CVG    990120/1100     39.90
>    EHR    990120/1100     33.80
>    FFT    990120/1100     41.00
>    FTK    990120/1100     39.20
>    HOP    990120/1100     41.00
>    JKL    990120/1100     39.00
>    LOU    990120/1100     44.60
>    LOZ    990120/1100     41.00
>    PAH    990120/1100     37.00
>    SME    990120/1100     44.60
>    LEX    990120/1200     39.90
>    SDF    990120/1200     39.90
>    BWG    990120/1200     37.90
>    CVG    990120/1200     37.90
>    EHR    990120/1200     33.80
>    FFT    990120/1200     37.90
>    FTK    990120/1200     37.40
>    HOP    990120/1200     39.20
>    JKL    990120/1200     39.00
>    LOU    990120/1200     42.80
>    LOZ    990120/1200     43.00
>    OWB    990120/1200  -9999.00
>    PAH    990120/1200     35.10
>    SME    990120/1200     44.60
>    LEX    990120/1300     39.90
>    SDF    990120/1300     41.00
>    CVG    990120/1300     37.90
>    EHR    990120/1300     33.80
>    FFT    990120/1300     39.90
>    FTK    990120/1300     39.20
>    HOP    990120/1300     39.20
>    JKL    990120/1300     39.00
>    LOU    990120/1300     41.00
>    LOZ    990120/1300     41.00
>    OWB    990120/1300  -9999.00
>    PAH    990120/1300     33.10
>    SME    990120/1300     42.80
>    LEX    990120/1400     41.00
>    SDF    990120/1400     41.00
>    BWG    990120/1400     39.00
>    CVG    990120/1400     39.00
>    EHR    990120/1400     37.40
>    FFT    990120/1400     39.90
>    FTK    990120/1400     42.80
>    HOP    990120/1400     39.20
>    JKL    990120/1400     39.90
>    LOU    990120/1400     48.20
>    LOZ    990120/1400     42.10
>    OWB    990120/1400  -9999.00
>    PAH    990120/1400     34.00
>    LEX    990120/1500     46.00
>    SDF    990120/1500     45.00
>    BWG    990120/1500     46.90
>    CVG    990120/1500     45.00
>    EHR    990120/1500     44.60
>    FFT    990120/1500     45.00
>    FTK    990120/1500     46.40
>    HOP    990120/1500     50.00
>    JKL    990120/1500     44.10
>    LOU    990120/1500     46.40
>    LOZ    990120/1500     46.90
>    OWB    990120/1500  -9999.00
>    PAH    990120/1500     43.00
>    SME    990120/1500     53.60
>    LEX    990120/1600     50.00
>    SDF    990120/1600     48.90
>    BWG    990120/1600     55.00
>    CVG    990120/1600     48.90
>    EHR    990120/1600     48.20
>    FFT    990120/1600     50.00
>    FTK    990120/1600     51.80
>    HOP    990120/1600     57.20
>    JKL    990120/1600     46.90
>    LOU    990120/1600     51.80
>    LOZ    990120/1600     52.00
>    OWB    990120/1600  -9999.00
>    PAH    990120/1600     52.00
>    SME    990120/1600     57.20
>    LEX    990120/1700     54.00
>    SDF    990120/1700     54.00
>    BWG    990120/1700     59.00
>    CVG    990120/1700     52.00
>    EHR    990120/1700     53.60
>    FFT    990120/1700     53.10
>    FTK    990120/1700     55.40
>    HOP    990120/1700     60.80
>    JKL    990120/1700     51.10
>    LOU    990120/1700     55.40
>    LOZ    990120/1700     57.00
>    PAH    990120/1700     55.90
>    SME    990120/1700     60.80
>    LEX    990120/1800     55.90
>    SDF    990120/1800     57.00
>    BWG    990120/1800     61.00
>    CVG    990120/1800     54.00
>    EHR    990120/1800     55.40
>    FFT    990120/1800     55.90
>    FTK    990120/1800     57.20
>    HOP    990120/1800     60.80
>    JKL    990120/1800     55.00
>    LOU    990120/1800     57.20
>    LOZ    990120/1800     57.90
>    OWB    990120/1800  -9999.00
>    PAH    990120/1800     59.00
>    SME    990120/1800     62.60
>    LEX    990120/1900     57.00
>    SDF    990120/1900     57.90
>    BWG    990120/1900     63.00
>    CVG    990120/1900     55.00
>    EHR    990120/1900     57.20
>    FFT    990120/1900     57.00
>    FTK    990120/1900     62.60
>    HOP    990120/1900     66.20
>    JKL    990120/1900     57.90
>    LOU    990120/1900     59.00
>    LOZ    990120/1900     61.00
>    OWB    990120/1900  -9999.00
>    PAH    990120/1900     62.10
>    SME    990120/1900     66.20
>    BWG    990120/2000     64.90
>    EHR    990120/2000     59.00
>    FFT    990120/2000     59.00
>    FTK    990120/2000     62.60
>    HOP    990120/2000     68.00
>    LOU    990120/2000     60.80
>    LOZ    990120/2000     62.10
>    OWB    990120/2000  -9999.00
>    SME    990120/2000     69.80
>    EHR    990120/2100     60.80
>    FTK    990120/2100     62.60
>    HOP    990120/2100     68.00
>    LEX    990120/2200     57.00
>    SDF    990120/2200     60.10
>    EHR    990120/2200     55.40
>    FTK    990120/2200     60.80
>    HOP    990120/2200     68.00
>    JKL    990120/2200     59.00
>    OWB    990120/2200  -9999.00
>    PAH    990120/2200     62.10
>    SME    990120/2200     64.40
>    LEX    990120/2300     55.00
>    SDF    990120/2300     59.00
>    BWG    990120/2300     61.00
>    EHR    990120/2300     53.60
>    FFT    990120/2300     52.00
>    FTK    990120/2300     55.40
>    HOP    990120/2300     60.80
>    JKL    990120/2300     57.00
>    LOU    990120/2300     57.20
>    LOZ    990120/2300     59.00
>    PAH    990120/2300     57.90
>    SME    990120/2300     59.00
>
>
>I know it is pretty lengthy. Our biggest concerns are with LEX, SDF, PAH and J
> KL
>as they are our big cities. Any ideas as to why this is happening? What LDM en
> try
>would I put into our pqact.conf to keep the raw format and how would I look at
>  it?
>That would at least eliminate dchrly as a culprit, correct?
>
>Thanks for any help - any more questions, let me know.
>
>Maureen
>
>Unidata Support wrote:
>
>> >From: Maureen Ballard <address@hidden>
>> >Organization: UK Ag Weather Center
>> >Keywords: 199901211420.HAA20651
>>
>> >Once again we are finding that we occasionally miss data. Yesterday
>> >(1/20/99) the last time stamp we got for the surface data in GEMPAK was
>> >19:47 local time (Eastern). Granted the new file should begin at 7
>> >Eastern (0Z), but it seems that the last time we had problems receiving
>> >data the same thing happened.
>>
>> Actually, reports from 2345Z through 0044Z are stored as 00Z observations
>> (thus you should see the next day file storing 00Z data before 00Z)
>> since most surface observations are taken before the top of the hour.
>> >
>> >Bottom line is that we are not receiving the all the data each hour.
>> >Last time I wrote Don said that they were missing some data on the
>> >McIdas stuff but not all of the same stuff I was missing thus it may be
>> >a problem with dchourly. Any ideas?
>>
>> I need some more information on what you think you are missing
>> since I have no idea what exactly you are pointing to.
>>
>> If you are storing both the raw observations, as well as decoding
>> the data with dchrly, and you are seeing the raw observations
>> not stored in the decoded file, then we need to see why that is happening.
>>
>> Any raw files, as well as your decoded file would help, as well
>> as specific stations you can point to.
>>
>> >
>> >If you want a copy of any files from here, just let me know - didn't
>> >want to send lots of stuff you didn't need.
>> >
>> >Thanks
>> >
>> >Maureen
>> >
>>
>> Steve Chiswell
>> Unidata User Support
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