Re: [conduit] [External] Re: NCO Conduit Transition to RHEL8

Unidata is definitely seeing issues:

https://rtstats.unidata.ucar.edu/cgi-bin/rtstats/iddstats_nc?CONDUIT+conduit.unidata.ucar.edu

Gilbert Sebenste
Meteorology Support Analyst



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I'm seeing "similar but different" incomplete GFS 12Z reception. Here is what 
we received for the 0.5 degree grids (we pull every 6 forecast hours):

161091504 Oct 17 16:42 GFS_231017_12_066
161020526 Oct 17 16:41 GFS_231017_12_060
161532465 Oct 17 16:40 GFS_231017_12_030
160720347 Oct 17 16:39 GFS_231017_12_006
161437760 Oct 17 16:38 GFS_231017_12_024
161427788 Oct 17 16:38 GFS_231017_12_012
160771248 Oct 17 16:37 GFS_231017_12_054
149524822 Oct 17 16:34 GFS_231017_12_000

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From: conduit <conduit-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of David Ovens via 
conduit
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2023 2:16 PM
To: Mike Zuranski <zuranski.wx@xxxxxxxxx>
Cc: ncep.pmb.dataflow@xxxxxxxx; CONDUIT Users List <conduit@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; 
Unidata CONDUIT Support <support-conduit@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [conduit] NCO Conduit Transition to RHEL8

Hello everyone,

Our problems receiving CONDUIT data have continued to show up sporadically.  
Today's 12Z GFS run produced only these files in our 
/home/disk/data/conduit/gfs.20231017/12/atmos/ directory:

 size      time (PDT)   filename
 441024023 Oct 17 09:28 gfs.t12z.pgrb2.0p25.anl
 504326579 Oct 17 09:27 gfs.t12z.pgrb2.0p25.f000
 538762730 Oct 17 09:34 gfs.t12z.pgrb2.0p25.f003
 543944330 Oct 17 09:29 gfs.t12z.pgrb2.0p25.f006
 544617905 Oct 17 09:30 gfs.t12z.pgrb2.0p25.f015
 546797452 Oct 17 09:28 gfs.t12z.pgrb2.0p25.f018
 547155169 Oct 17 09:33 gfs.t12z.pgrb2.0p25.f030
 543889075 Oct 17 09:30 gfs.t12z.pgrb2.0p25.f033
 546571525 Oct 17 09:33 gfs.t12z.pgrb2.0p25.f036
 548007247 Oct 17 09:33 gfs.t12z.pgrb2.0p25.f042
 544924791 Oct 17 09:33 gfs.t12z.pgrb2.0p25.f045
 546482726 Oct 17 09:29 gfs.t12z.pgrb2.0p25.f048
 544314349 Oct 17 09:29 gfs.t12z.pgrb2.0p25.f051
 544234794 Oct 17 09:35 gfs.t12z.pgrb2.0p25.f054
 543829161 Oct 17 09:35 gfs.t12z.pgrb2.0p25.f057
 541267075 Oct 17 09:33 gfs.t12z.pgrb2.0p25.f069
 538371335 Oct 17 09:34 gfs.t12z.pgrb2.0p25.f075
 543307726 Oct 17 09:33 gfs.t12z.pgrb2.0p25.f078
 539918825 Oct 17 09:35 gfs.t12z.pgrb2.0p25.f084
 540995533 Oct 17 09:36 gfs.t12z.pgrb2.0p25.f087
 537682133 Oct 17 09:36 gfs.t12z.pgrb2.0p25.f090

As you can see, we are missing multiple forecast hours.  And, typical arrival 
times would be nearly one hour earlier for these files (we got the 0p25.anl 
file at 08:34 PDT yesterday).  Are others seeing similar delays and missing 
data?

Cheers,

David
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Research Meteorologist    phone: (206) 685-8108
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                                  https://atmos.uw.edu/~ovens/loops


On Sun, Oct 15, 2023 at 08:56:21PM -0500, Mike Zuranski wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 15, 2023 at 8:38???PM Herzmann, Daryl E [AGRON] < 
> akrherz@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > Hi Mike,
> >
> > Thanks, that was the clue-by-four I needed to be hit with.  I 
> > adjusted my LDM request and got the other half of the NDFD products 
> > now being transmitted!
> >
>
> Awesome, glad you're getting everything!
>
>
>
> > PS, that screenshot is ultra fancy, is it available for us mere 
> > mortals to use?
> >
> > daryl
> >
>
> Hey Thanks! :D
>
> I'm afraid not yet, it's far from ready for primetime and isn't always 
> running attm.  But I've got some irons in the fire for interfaces that 
> would be more useful to you mere mortals our beloved & valued users.
> There's a bit for us to juggle right now so I can't say much in terms 
> of timing, other than *I'm Working On It *(tm).
>
>
> Best,
> -Mike
>
> *Mike Zuranski*
> Data Engineer II
> Unidata Program Center
> University Corporation for Atmospheric Research
>
>
>
> > ________________________________________
> > From: Mike Zuranski <zuranski.wx@xxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2023 3:18 PM
> > To: Herzmann, Daryl E [AGRON]
> > Cc: CONDUIT Users List; ncep.pmb.dataflow@xxxxxxxx; Unidata CONDUIT 
> > Support
> > Subject: Re: [conduit] NCO Conduit Transition to RHEL8
> >
> > Daryl,
> >
> > Looks like it's there to me, all under the 
> > "/common/data/products/NDFD/grib2/..." header.  20Z coming in now actually:
> >
> > [image.png]
> >
> > Are you not seeing these?
> >
> > -Mike
> >
> >
> > Mike Zuranski
> > Data Engineer II
> > Unidata Program Center
> > University Corporation for Atmospheric Research
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Oct 15, 2023 at 1:00???PM Herzmann, Daryl E [AGRON] < 
> > akrherz@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:akrherz@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> > Hi Mike,
> >
> > Thanks, but I am not seeing either of those two.  Do you have 
> > examples from today?
> >
> > daryl
> >
> > ________________________________________
> > From: Mike Zuranski
> > <zuranski.wx@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:zuranski.wx@xxxxxxxxx>>
> > Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2023 11:52 AM
> > To: Herzmann, Daryl E [AGRON]
> > Cc: CONDUIT Users List; ncep.pmb.dataflow@xxxxxxxx<mailto:
> > ncep.pmb.dataflow@xxxxxxxx>; Unidata CONDUIT Support
> > Subject: Re: [conduit] NCO Conduit Transition to RHEL8
> >
> > Hi Daryl,
> >
> > For some unknown amount of time, there has been duplicate NDFD data 
> > on CONDUIT that would come with two separate product IDs, though the 
> > data was identical.  Here is an example of the differences; the two 
> > products were otherwise bytewise identical:
> >
> > /common/data/products/NDFD/grib2/YCUZ98_KWBN_121351.grib2
> > !grib2/nwstg/NWS_0/#000/202310121400F058/SPED/10 m HGHT! 000042
> > data2/ndfd/YCUZ98_KWBN_121351.grib2
> > !grib2/nwstg/NWS_0/#000/202310121400F058/SPED/10 m HGHT! 000042
> >
> > I have been in talks with NCEP about this and I know they were 
> > looking into it; while I wasn't aware of any plans, it would appear 
> > they have consolidated/rectified the different product IDs with this 
> > update.  From my records it looks like the latter pattern stopped 
> > around 10/12 14Z, the former pattern continues to be used.
> >
> > If you search using the former product ID pattern, do you see all 
> > the expected NDFD products then?
> >
> > -Mike
> >
> >
> > Mike Zuranski
> > Data Engineer II
> > Unidata Program Center
> > University Corporation for Atmospheric Research
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Oct 15, 2023 at 10:58???AM Herzmann, Daryl E [AGRON] < 
> > akrherz@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:akrherz@xxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:akrherz@iasta
> > te.edu <mailto:akrherz@xxxxxxxxxxx>>> wrote:
> > Greetings,
> >
> > Since this transition, I am noticing that NDFD data is not flowing 
> > over CONDUIT.  Anybody else able to verify?
> >
> > daryl
> >
> > ________________________________________
> > From: conduit <conduit-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:
> > conduit-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:conduit-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > r.edu <mailto:conduit-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>> on behalf of NCEP 
> > Dataflow via conduit 
> > <conduit@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:conduit@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > ><mailto:conduit@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:conduit@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>>
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2023 2:18 PM
> > To: CONDUIT Users List
> > Cc: Unidata CONDUIT Support
> > Subject: Re: [conduit] NCO Conduit Transition to RHEL8
> >
> > Hello CONDUIT Users,
> >
> > The start date of the transition of NCO's Conduit servers to RHEL8 
> > was pushed back by one day due to Critical Weather Day on Tuesday 10/10 .
> > Therefore our migration to the new systems began today, Wednesday 
> > October 11th. The transition will still take place over three days 
> > with our operational servers now planned to migrate tomorrow, 
> > Thursday October 12th at ~1300z.
> >
> > Changes on your end are not necessary and we are anticipating a 
> > seamless transition. If however you do encounter issues that are not 
> > resolved by an LDM restart, please report them to NCO Dataflow (
> > ncep.pmb.dataflow@xxxxxxxx<mailto:ncep.pmb.dataflow@xxxxxxxx><mailto:
> > ncep.pmb.dataflow@xxxxxxxx<mailto:ncep.pmb.dataflow@xxxxxxxx>><mailto:
> > ncep.pmb.dataflow@xxxxxxxx<mailto:ncep.pmb.dataflow@xxxxxxxx><mailto:
> > ncep.pmb.dataflow@xxxxxxxx<mailto:ncep.pmb.dataflow@xxxxxxxx>>>) as 
> > soon as possible with a subject line that includes the text "CONDUIT Issue".
> >
> > Thank you
> > --
> > NCO Dataflow Team
> > ncep.pmb.dataflow@xxxxxxxx<mailto:ncep.pmb.dataflow@xxxxxxxx><mailto:
> > ncep.pmb.dataflow@xxxxxxxx<mailto:ncep.pmb.dataflow@xxxxxxxx>><mailto:
> > ncep.pmb.dataflow@xxxxxxxx<mailto:ncep.pmb.dataflow@xxxxxxxx><mailto:
> > ncep.pmb.dataflow@xxxxxxxx<mailto:ncep.pmb.dataflow@xxxxxxxx>>>
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 6, 2023 at 12:44???PM Dustin Sheffler - NOAA Federal <
> > dustin.sheffler@xxxxxxxx<mailto:dustin.sheffler@xxxxxxxx><mailto:
> > dustin.sheffler@xxxxxxxx<mailto:dustin.sheffler@xxxxxxxx>><mailto:
> > dustin.sheffler@xxxxxxxx<mailto:dustin.sheffler@xxxxxxxx><mailto:
> > dustin.sheffler@xxxxxxxx<mailto:dustin.sheffler@xxxxxxxx>>>> wrote:
> > Attention CONDUIT Users,
> >
> > Beginning Tuesday, October 10th, 2023 at 1300z, NCO Dataflow will 
> > begin the migration of our CONDUIT systems to RHEL 8. The transition 
> > will take place over three days with our operational servers 
> > migrating on Wednesday, October 11th at 1300z. Changes on your end 
> > are not necessary and we are anticipating a seamless transition. If 
> > however you do encounter issues that are not resolved by an LDM 
> > restart, please report them to NCO Dataflow (
> > ncep.pmb.dataflow@xxxxxxxx<mailto:ncep.pmb.dataflow@xxxxxxxx><mailto:
> > ncep.pmb.dataflow@xxxxxxxx<mailto:ncep.pmb.dataflow@xxxxxxxx>><mailto:
> > ncep.pmb.dataflow@xxxxxxxx<mailto:ncep.pmb.dataflow@xxxxxxxx><mailto:
> > ncep.pmb.dataflow@xxxxxxxx<mailto:ncep.pmb.dataflow@xxxxxxxx>>>) as 
> > soon as possible with a subject line that includes the text "CONDUIT Issue".
> >
> > Thank you
> > --
> > NCO Dataflow Team
> > ncep.pmb.dataflow@xxxxxxxx<mailto:ncep.pmb.dataflow@xxxxxxxx><mailto:
> > ncep.pmb.dataflow@xxxxxxxx<mailto:ncep.pmb.dataflow@xxxxxxxx>><mailto:
> > ncep.pmb.dataflow@xxxxxxxx<mailto:ncep.pmb.dataflow@xxxxxxxx><mailto:
> > ncep.pmb.dataflow@xxxxxxxx<mailto:ncep.pmb.dataflow@xxxxxxxx>>>
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