Re: [thredds] TDS5 Beta 2 and latest version of Tomcat

BTW - I doubt that this is unique to TDS 5.0Beta2,  but probably is true for 
TDS4.6.xx also.  I just happened to be testing TDS 5.0Beta2 to see what if any 
changes I needed to make to our catalogs.

-Roy


> On Jul 30, 2018, at 4:12 PM, Roy Mendelssohn - NOAA Federal 
> <roy.mendelssohn@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> Okay adding the relaxedQueryChars="[]" to server.xml did indeed appear to fix 
> the problem,  not only in TDS but in other apps.  But is this the best place 
> to fix it rather than in the app,  and even more before I switch over I would 
> want to do more testing that it fixes things everywhere.  So clearly 
> something did change in Tomcat,  because I was pretty certain it was the 
> square brackets that were causing the problem  (anything that didn't have a 
> square bracket worked just fine).  I also need to do some testing if this 
> fixes things with applications that make queries to the TDS, rather than 
> URL's generated by the TDS.
> 
> This is not the first time that changes in Tomcat like this broke code.  It 
> was maybe 1.5 - 2 years ago they made some changes in how they dealt with 
> percent encoding that also affected a lot of things.  
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> -Roy
> 
> 
>> On Jul 30, 2018, at 3:42 PM, Dennis Heimbigner <dmh@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> 
>> Seeing this twice makes me think that indeed tomcat has changed its behavior.
>> Isn't the saying "twice is enemy action..."?
>> The alternative, I think,  is to change the opendap .html response to use 
>> the % encoded form
>> for '[' and ']' when it constructs requests. WIll ncss have same problem?
>> In any case,I do not know if changing the .html response would cause trouble 
>> when using
>> older versions of tomcat that by default allow [].
>> =Dennis Heimbigner
>>  Unidata
>> 
>> On 7/30/2018 4:36 PM, Sean Arms wrote:
>>> Greetings Roy!
>>> 
>>> Thank you for your report! We had a user contact us last week thorough our 
>>> support channel who was having an issue with OPeNDAP requests not working, 
>>> due to [ and ], much like you report. This user found the following tweak 
>>> to Tomcat's server.xml that fixed the problem (specifically, the 
>>> relaxedQueryChars attribute):
>>> 
>>> <Connector port="8080" protocol="HTTP/1.1"
>>> connectionTimeout="20000"
>>> redirectPort="8443" relaxedQueryChars="[]" />
>>> 
>>> The initial thought was that this was something particular to their server, 
>>> but I think your correct in that it's a change in how tomcat handles these 
>>> characters. The user who emailed us didn't include the version of Tomcat 
>>> they were using, so I'm not 100% sure, but this sure sounds like the issue.
>>> 
>>> What I don't know yet is if this must be configured at a level above the 
>>> TDS (like tomcat's server.xml), or if this something we could address in 
>>> the TDS codebase (in a servlet container agnostic way).
>>> 
>>> In your case, if you try the request but encode the square brackets by hand 
>>> using %5B for '[' and %5D for ']', does the query work?
>>> 
>>> Thank you again!
>>> 
>>> Sean
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Jul 30, 2018 at 12:58 PM Roy Mendelssohn - NOAA Federal 
>>> <roy.mendelssohn@xxxxxxxx<mailto:roy.mendelssohn@xxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>   Hi All:
>>> 
>>>   Something we discovered is that Tomcat has made some changes in
>>>   how it deals with percent encoding, and it appears to not work
>>>   with the TDS5 Beta2 release.  If I run in Tomcat 8.5.14, using the
>>>   default TDS settings that are installed if nothing else is there, 
>>>   if I go to:
>>> 
>>>   http://localhost:8080/thredds/dodsC/testAll/2004050312_eta_211.nc.html
>>> 
>>>   select datetime and asked for ASCII,  it works.
>>> 
>>>   If I do the exact same thing with Tomcat 8.5.32,  I get a blank
>>>   page.  From looking at the Tomcat changelogs,  I think there may
>>>   have been a change at 8.5.15. It appears to be something to do
>>>   with  the handling of '[' and ']'.
>>> 
>>>   HTH,
>>> 
>>>   -Roy
>>> 
>>> 
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> "The contents of this message do not reflect any position of the U.S. 
> Government or NOAA."
> **********************
> Roy Mendelssohn
> Supervisory Operations Research Analyst
> NOAA/NMFS
> Environmental Research Division
> Southwest Fisheries Science Center
> ***Note new street address***
> 110 McAllister Way
> Santa Cruz, CA 95060
> Phone: (831)-420-3666
> Fax: (831) 420-3980
> e-mail: Roy.Mendelssohn@xxxxxxxx www: http://www.pfeg.noaa.gov/
> 
> "Old age and treachery will overcome youth and skill."
> "From those who have been given much, much will be expected" 
> "the arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice" -MLK Jr.
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**********************
"The contents of this message do not reflect any position of the U.S. 
Government or NOAA."
**********************
Roy Mendelssohn
Supervisory Operations Research Analyst
NOAA/NMFS
Environmental Research Division
Southwest Fisheries Science Center
***Note new street address***
110 McAllister Way
Santa Cruz, CA 95060
Phone: (831)-420-3666
Fax: (831) 420-3980
e-mail: Roy.Mendelssohn@xxxxxxxx www: http://www.pfeg.noaa.gov/

"Old age and treachery will overcome youth and skill."
"From those who have been given much, much will be expected" 
"the arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice" -MLK Jr.



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