Re: [thredds] TDS as a big data platform

  • To: Antonio S. Cofiño <cofinoa@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Subject: Re: [thredds] TDS as a big data platform
  • From: Guan Wang <gwang@xxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2016 11:39:11 -0500 (EST)
Hi Antonio,

Thank you for sharing! This is really helpful! I have to say these were fancy 
hardware back to 2010 :)

Two questions:

1. Since you have IB through fabric, why 10G Ethernet is still necessary on 
storage server?

2. How many tomcat worker servers/VMs do you have?

Guan

----- Original Message -----
From: "Antonio S. Cofiño" <cofinoa@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "Guan Wang" <gwang@xxxxxxx>
Cc: "y kudo" <y_kudo@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, thredds@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 10:51:17 AM
Subject: Re: [thredds] TDS as a big data platform

The current configuration, is based on very old hardware (2010) and features: 


    * Web frontend is Apache httpd 2.2 (reverse proxy+SSL): Virtual server 
    * web backend balanced based on mod_jk (AJP)+Apache httpd 2.2: Virtual 
server 
    * Tomcat 7 workers (TDS deployment): 


        * CPU: 2 Intel(R) Xeon(R) E5620 (4 Cores, 12M Cache, 2.40 GHz, 5.86 
GT/s Intel® QPI); 
        * RAM: 16GB; OS: CentOS6 
        * Storage Area Network: Infiniband DDR (20Gb/s) 
    * Storage server (2010): 

        * CPU: 2x Intel® Xeon® Processor E5520 (8M Cache, 2.26 GHz, 5.86 GT/s 
Intel® QPI) 
        * RAM: 24 GB RAM 
        * Hard Disk: 190 HDD (2TB and 3TB drives) (SATA 6GB/s) 
        * HBA: 4xLSI 9200-8e SAS HBA 
        * Network: 10G Ethernet+Infiniband DDR (20Gb/s) 
        * OS: OpenIndiana oi_151a6 
        * Filesystem: ZFS (raidz2 vdevs 10+2) 
        * RAW Storage pool: 402TB 

Please let me know if you want more details. 

Antonio 






El 26/02/2016 a las 16:13, Guan Wang escribió: 


Hi Antonio,

Thank you for sharing! Do you mind also share the server config, cpu, ram etc. 
that runs TDS?

Guan

----- Original Message -----
From: "Antonio S. Cofiño" <cofinoa@xxxxxxxxx> To: thredds@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Cc: 
"y kudo" <y_kudo@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 8:52:33 AM
Subject: Re: [thredds] TDS as a big data platform


Yoshi,

Below my expertise on TDS (v4.3 and v4.6)



El 19/02/2016 a las 7:26, Yoshiyuki Kudo escribió: 

Hi,

I am in a project where bunch of EO data researchers will use some data access 
services for an attempt to create new data products out of the wealth of the 
data pool.  The data will be EO data (coverage data) in netCDF, some GBytes per 
data granule, and will amount to over 120TB, 0.3 million data files in total (1 
year worth of collection).

I feel TDS or Hyrax can be a good candidate for this platform, but would like 
to hear your advice before further estimation of work and hardware purchase.  I 
very much appreciate your expertise on this.

1) I see some historical threads about how aggregation of large volumes of data 
can be problematic.  I will need to consider the aggregation as well, but is 
the 100TB+ aggregation possible ? Both technically and performance wise ? We 
have an operational service  which aggregate collections of datasets. 
One of the aggregations consist in 135k files in GRIB1 format and 13TB 
of data. Another collection is based on 300k+ files but 8TB on size. 
This collections are aggregated in just one NetCDF entity using a NCML, 
each one. The 100TB+ of aggregation will be possible, but the limit will 
be the performance because the amount of files. 

2) Is there any HW restriction for the TDS set up I should have in mind before 
preparing the HW ?  Do I need to have a single disk drive (partition) for the 
100+TB data management in TDS ? No, you don't need to have just one partition. 
But In our case we have  
400TB of disk based in ZFS (OpenIndiana) using a pool of 150 desktop 
HDDs, using a configuration of raidz2 vdev (10+2 disks). For TDS 
services we are using a load-balanced configuration with TDS instances 
running in a cluster. 

3) Could you share any success story you know of, about handling large volumes 
of data in a TDS ? 
https://rd-alliance.org/sites/default/files/attachment/20150924_Day2_1330_End-userGatewayForClimateServicesAndDataInitiatives_Cofino.pdf
 

4) Any other recommendation or things I need to keep in mind ? We considered, 
at the beginning, dynamic aggregation based on scan 
directory facilities provided by TDS, but at the end it didn't perform 
well, and what are we doing is generate static ncml aggregations. 

Thank you so much for your support. Please feel free to ask.

Regards

Antonio

--
Antonio S. Cofiño
Grupo de Meteorología de Santander
Dep. de Matemática Aplicada y
         Ciencias de la Computación
Universidad de Cantabria http://www.meteo.unican.es 

Yoshi

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