Re: [netcdfgroup] HDF error, and now what?

  • To: ezaron <ezaron@xxxxxxx>
  • Subject: Re: [netcdfgroup] HDF error, and now what?
  • From: Dave Allured - NOAA Affiliate <dave.allured@xxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 13:30:54 -0600
Ed,

The HDF group has diagnostic tools for HDF5 files.  They should also work
for netcdf4 files.

   http://www.hdfgroup.org/products/hdf5_tools/

I found this sequence to be helpful with your sample file:

   h5dump ncom_relo_amseas_2010072600_t015.nc4 >& dump2
   grep -n '[^ ()0-9,.:-]' dump2 > no-data.2

This found a problem in the variable water_temp, and everything else seemed
okay.

Would these tools help your debugging strategy and reduce your need to
enhance diagnostics in the Netcdf library?

--Dave

On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 12:07 PM, ezaron <ezaron@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>
> Thank you for your help, Russ and David.
>
> 1) Re: log level
> This is a great tip. I saw reference to the nf_set_log_level function on
a listserv, but I could not find the symbol in the library. Somehow I
missed the build option.
>
> 2) Re: corrupted file
> Yes, some bits in the file seem to be corrupted. I can re-download the
file, and compress it, and it appears fixed. But it seems that many data
values in the file are not corrupted, and it is a pain to have to
re-download the whole file (about 24 min per file). The somewhat worrisome
part is that nccopy will happily compress the original netcdf without
throwing an error. It would be nice if the library provided a little more
information for me to read around the bad bits. I suppose that is what I do
now, but I wonder if I am throwing out more than necessary.
>
> Regards,
>
> Ed
>
> On Jul 24, 2014, at 10:29 AM, Russ Rew <russ@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Ed,
>
> Getting at the HDF5 error messages is possible, but not easy:
>
> If you build
> the
> netCDF
> C library
> with
> the
> --enable-logging
> configure option, rebuild the netCDF Fortran library using that C library
(or maybe it will just work if its a shared library)
> , then
> put the following
> in your code
> somewhere before the HDF error occurs
>
>
> n
> f
> _set_log_level(3)
>
> y
> ou will get
> lots
>  of output
> , including various messages on the HDF5 error stack when the error occurs
> .
> If you change
>  the "3" to a "1"
> , you
> get less output, or to a
> "
> 5
> ", you
>  get more.
>
> Sometimes this can be helpful in debugging a problem in the HDF5 layer or
a bug in how it's called.
>
> --Russ
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 10:44 AM, David W. Pierce <dpierce@xxxxxxxx>
wrote:
>>
>> Seems like the null hypothesis is simply that the files are corrupted,
>> perhaps because of disk or copying errors. A few bad values in many
>> terabytes of data seem consistent with that at first glance. Have you
>> tried remaking the source files on a separate disk, if that is
>> possible? Or are there other copies elsewhere that can be checksummed
>> and compared to your copy?
>>
>> Or perhaps I'm misunderstanding, and your basic point is that the HDF
>> layer should cope with disk errors more gracefully? I don't know how
>> the compression works in detail, but I've always imagined that once
>> you get a error in a compressed file you can't recover the subsequent
>> data very easily. If you *could* recover data subsequent to an error,
>> that would imply some level of repeated information, which presumably
>> the compression is supposed to remove in the first place.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> --Dave
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 9:26 AM, ezaron <ezaron@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >
>> > Thanks, Rob.
>> >
>> > The frustrating thing about it is that the error message is completely
>> > opaque.
>> >
>> > I wrap my netcdf calls in a function that reports the error. If the
return
>> > code is not equal to NF_NOERR, then I call nf_strerror. The error
occurs on
>> > a call to nf_get_vara_int, which returns a status of -101. The
nf_strerror
>> > reports this as
>> > "NetCDF: HDF error"
>> >
>> > In case you (or a netcdf developer) can take a look, I have posted an
>> > example file here:
>> >
>> >
http://maki.cee.pdx.edu/~ezaron/NETCDF4examplefailure/ncom_relo_amseas_2010072600_t015.nc4
>> >
>> > The error occurs with a call like the following:
>> > nf_get_vara_int(ncid,varid,istart4,icount4,tmp)
>> > istart4 = (384,371,1,1)
>> > icount4 = (2,2,40,1)
>> > varid corresponds to the "water_temp" variable
>> >
>> > It is a very strange error. If I open the file in ncview, for example,
I can
>> > view the other variables without problems. But if I try to view the
>> > water_temp variable, ncview crashes and reports "NetCDF: HDF error"
also.
>> >
>> > ncks reports the same error when I try to extract water_temp.
>> >
>> > But if use "ncdump -v water_temp", the values are extracted from the
file
>> > without any problems up to a certain point when the program crashes,
>> > reporting:
>> > NetCDF: HDF error
>> > Location: file vardata.c; line 479
>> >
>> > I see this bug mentioned on the ncks release notes:
>> > netCDF #HZY-708311
>> >
http://www.unidata.ucar.edu/mailing_lists/archives/netcdfgroup/2014/msg00045.html
>> > and wonder if it is the same problem.
>> >
>> > -Ed
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > View this message in context:
http://netcdf-group.1586084.n2.nabble.com/HDF-error-and-now-what-tp7575504p7575506.html
>> > Sent from the NetCDF Group mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>> >
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>>
>> --
>> David W. Pierce
>> Division of Climate, Atmospheric Science, and Physical Oceanography
>> Scripps Institution of Oceanography, La Jolla, California, USA
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