Re: [netcdfgroup] nc_open takes a long time to open a big file

Hi Jennifer,

> I have tried it again with netcdf-4.1.2-beta1; same results.
> 
> I also tried calling nc_set_chunk_cache before nc_open, with args  
> size=409600 (and also 4096000), nelems=51203, and preemption=0.75.  
> That didn't seem to change anything for nc_open. Always 20 seconds for  
> a file the OS hasn't touched in a while.

This looks like a bug.  We're occupied in project reviews this morning,
but will dig into this further this afternoon.  Thanks for reporting the
problem!

--Russ

> p.s. from config.log:
> configure:4219: checking whether a default chunk size in bytes was  
> specified
> configure:4229: result: 4194304
> configure:4238: checking whether a maximum per-variable cache size for  
> HDF5 was specified
> configure:4248: result: 67108864
> configure:4257: checking whether a number of chunks for the default  
> per-variable cache was specified
> configure:4267: result: 10
> configure:4276: checking whether a default file cache size for HDF5  
> was specified
> configure:4286: result: 4194304
> configure:4295: checking whether a default file cache maximum number  
> of elements for HDF5 was specified
> configure:4305: result: 1009
> configure:4314: checking whether a default cache preemption for HDF5  
> was specified
> configure:4324: result: 0.75
> 
> 
> 
> On Sep 9, 2010, at 8:06 PM, Denis Nadeau wrote:
> 
> > Hi Jennifer,
> >
> > Did you call nc_set_chunk_cache?  If not, do you know what the  
> > default cache size was set up to?  (Look in your config.log created  
> > after you called configure)
> > I must admit that 20 seconds is quite long.
> >
> > Denis
> >
> >
> > From: netcdfgroup-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:netcdfgroup-bounces@unid
> ata.ucar.edu 
> > ] On Behalf Of Jennifer Adams
> > Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 7:34 PM
> > To: netCDF Mail List
> > Subject: [netcdfgroup] nc_open takes a long time to open a big file
> >
> > Dear Experts,
> > I'm using netcdf-4.1.1-rc1 and hdf5-1.8.4-patch1 on a 64-bit linux  
> > server running CentOS-5.5.
> > I have a netcdf-4 file that is 18404502496 bytes large.
>
> > My file's dimensions look like this:
> >         lon = 320 ;
> >         lat = 160 ;
> >         lev = 11 ;
> >         time = 1581 ;
> >
> > It has 7 variables that look like this:
> >    float temp(time, lev, lat, lon) ;
> >                 temp:_Storage = "chunked" ;
> >                 temp:_ChunkSizes = 1, 1, 160, 320 ;
> >                 temp:_DeflateLevel = 1 ;
> >                 temp:_Shuffle = "true" ;
> >
> > and 1 variable that looks like this:
> >     float sfp(time, lat, lon) ;
> >                 sfp:_Storage = "chunked" ;
> >                 sfp:_ChunkSizes = 1, 160, 320 ;
> >                 sfp:_DeflateLevel = 1 ;
> >                 sfp:_Shuffle = "true" ;
> >
> > Is it normal for nc_open to take 20 seconds to open this file before  
> > returning control to my C program?
> >
> > --Jennifer
> >
> >
> > --
> > Jennifer M. Adams
> > IGES/COLA
> > 4041 Powder Mill Road, Suite 302
> > Calverton, MD 20705
> > jma@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >
> >
> 
> --
> Jennifer M. Adams
> IGES/COLA
> 4041 Powder Mill Road, Suite 302
> Calverton, MD 20705
> jma@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
> 
> 
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> <html><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; =
> -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">I have tried it again with =
> netcdf-4.1.2-beta1; same results.&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>I also tried =
> calling nc_set_chunk_cache before nc_open, with args size=3D409600 (and =
> also 4096000), nelems=3D51203, and preemption=3D0.75. That didn't seem =
> to change anything for nc_open. Always 20 seconds for a file the OS =
> hasn't touched in a =
> while.&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>--Jennifer</div><div><br></div><div>p.s. =
> from config.log:</div><div><div><div><div><font class=3D"Apple-style-span"=
>  face=3D"Courier" size=3D"3"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
> style=3D"font-size: 12px;">configure:4219: checking whether a default =
> chunk size in bytes was specified</span></font></div><div><font =
> class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Courier" size=3D"3"><span =
> class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-size: 12px;">configure:4229: =
> result: 4194304</span></font></div><div><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
> face=3D"Courier" size=3D"3"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
> style=3D"font-size: 12px;">configure:4238: checking whether a maximum =
> per-variable cache size for HDF5 was =
> specified</span></font></div><div><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
> face=3D"Courier" size=3D"3"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
> style=3D"font-size: 12px;">configure:4248: result: =
> 67108864</span></font></div><div><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
> face=3D"Courier" size=3D"3"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
> style=3D"font-size: 12px;">configure:4257: checking whether a number of =
> chunks for the default per-variable cache was =
> specified</span></font></div><div><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
> face=3D"Courier" size=3D"3"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
> style=3D"font-size: 12px;">configure:4267: result: =
> 10</span></font></div><div><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
> face=3D"Courier" size=3D"3"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
> style=3D"font-size: 12px;">configure:4276: checking whether a default =
> file cache size for HDF5 was specified</span></font></div><div><font =
> class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Courier" size=3D"3"><span =
> class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-size: 12px;">configure:4286: =
> result: 4194304</span></font></div><div><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
> face=3D"Courier" size=3D"3"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
> style=3D"font-size: 12px;">configure:4295: checking whether a default =
> file cache maximum number of elements for HDF5 was =
> specified</span></font></div><div><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
> face=3D"Courier" size=3D"3"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
> style=3D"font-size: 12px;">configure:4305: result: =
> 1009</span></font></div><div><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
> face=3D"Courier" size=3D"3"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
> style=3D"font-size: 12px;">configure:4314: checking whether a default =
> cache preemption for HDF5 was specified</span></font></div><div><font =
> class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Courier" size=3D"3"><span =
> class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-size: 12px;">configure:4324: =
> result: =
> 0.75</span></font></div><div><br></div></div></div></div><div><br></div><d=
> iv><br></div><div><div><div><div><div>On Sep 9, 2010, at 8:06 PM, Denis =
> Nadeau wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote =
> type=3D"cite"><div lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple" =
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> 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style=3D"font-size: =
> 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Hi =
> Jennifer,<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
> margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: =
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> 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style=3D"font-size: =
> 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Did =
> you call nc_set_chunk_cache? &nbsp;If not, do you know what the default =
> cache size was set up to?&nbsp; (Look in your config.log created after =
> you called configure)<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: =
> 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; =
> font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span =
> style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: =
> rgb(31, 73, 125); ">I must admit that 20 seconds is quite =
> long.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
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> ">Denis<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
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> sans-serif; ">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; =
> font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; "><span =
> class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
> href=3D"mailto:netcdfgroup-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>netcdfgroup-bounces@u=
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> class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><b>On Behalf Of<span =
> class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></b>Jennifer =
> Adams<br><b>Sent:</b><span =
> class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Thursday, September 09, =
> 2010 7:34 PM<br><b>To:</b><span =
> class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>netCDF Mail =
> List<br><b>Subject:</b><span =
> class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>[netcdfgroup] nc_open takes =
> a long time to open a big file<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div =
> style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; =
> margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', =
> serif; "><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
> margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: =
> 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">Dear =
> Experts,<o:p></o:p></div><div><div><div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
> margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: =
> 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">I'm using =
> netcdf-4.1.1-rc1 and&nbsp;hdf5-1.8.4-patch1 on a 64-bit linux server =
> running CentOS-5.5.<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin-top: =
> 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; =
> font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">I have a =
> netcdf-4 file that is 18404502496 bytes =
> large.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
> margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: =
> 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
> "><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
> margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: =
> 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">My file's dimensions look =
> like this:<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
> margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: =
> 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; =
> &nbsp; &nbsp;lon =3D 320 ;<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div =
> style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; =
> margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', =
> serif; ">&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;lat =3D 160 =
> ;<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
> margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: =
> 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; =
> &nbsp; &nbsp;lev =3D 11 ;<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div =
> style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; =
> margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', =
> serif; ">&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;time =3D 1581 =
> ;<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
> margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: =
> 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
> "><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></div></div><div><div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
> margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: =
> 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">It has 7 variables that =
> look like this:<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin-top: =
> 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; =
> font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">&nbsp;&nbsp; =
> float temp(time, lev, lat, lon) ;<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div =
> style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; =
> margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', =
> serif; ">&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
> &nbsp;temp:_Storage =3D "chunked" ;<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div =
> style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; =
> margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', =
> serif; ">&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
> &nbsp;temp:_ChunkSizes =3D 1, 1, 160, 320 =
> ;<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
> margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: =
> 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; =
> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;temp:_DeflateLevel =3D 1 =
> ;<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
> margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: =
> 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; =
> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;temp:_Shuffle =3D "true" =
> ;<o:p></o:p></div></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
> margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: =
> 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
> "><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
> margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: =
> 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">and 1 variable that looks =
> like this:&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div><div style=3D"margin-top:=
>  0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; =
> font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">&nbsp;&nbsp; =
> &nbsp;float sfp(time, lat, lon) ;<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div =
> style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; =
> margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', =
> serif; ">&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
> &nbsp;sfp:_Storage =3D "chunked" ;<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div =
> style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; =
> margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', =
> serif; ">&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
> &nbsp;sfp:_ChunkSizes =3D 1, 160, 320 ;<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div =
> style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; =
> margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', =
> serif; ">&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
> &nbsp;sfp:_DeflateLevel =3D 1 ;<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div =
> style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; =
> margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', =
> serif; ">&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
> &nbsp;sfp:_Shuffle =3D "true" ;<o:p></o:p></div></div></div><div><div =
> style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; =
> margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', =
> serif; "><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin-top: =
> 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; =
> font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">Is it normal =
> for nc_open to take 20 seconds to open this file before returning =
> control to my C program?&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div =
> style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; =
> margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', =
> serif; "><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin-top: =
> 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; =
> font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
> ">--Jennifer<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
> margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: =
> 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
> "><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></div></div><div><div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
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> "><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></div><div><div><div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
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> 9pt; ">--<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin-top: =
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> font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span =
> style=3D"font-size: 9pt; ">Jennifer M. =
> Adams<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
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> serif; "><span style=3D"font-size: 9pt; ">4041 Powder Mill Road, Suite =
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> 9pt; ">Calverton, MD 20705<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div =
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> margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', =
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