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I want to comment on the recent discussion about conventions, in particular valid_range. First, if you want a netCDF file to be portable (and that is one of the main reasons for using netCDF) then you must conform to the published conventions. These conventions are of two types: - generic: as in chapter 8 of the C, F77 and F90 User Guides - application-specific: as in "netCDF Conventions" Web Pages All netCDF files, software and application-specific conventions should comply with the generic conventions. I was involved in rewriting these in 1996 and we spent a lot of time trying to make them as simple, clear and convenient as possible. If we could have started from scratch, many things would have been different. But the whole point of conventions is that it is more important that people comply with them than that they be ideal. A less- than-ideal convention is still very useful, provided people do comply. The application-specific conventions (e.g. COARDS) are very important for files and software within their application areas, but are not relevant outside their areas. However, there may be a need to make some of these conventions generic, so they do apply to all files. Regarding valid_range. The generic conventions clearly state that the type must match that of the variable. If if does not, then there should be an error message. Some software may then attempt to recover and make some sense of erroneous data like this, but such a "feature" worries me because it encourages file writers to use the feature and write non-standard files. I certainly do not like the idea of meaning depending on data type. This is completely against the philosophy of the version 3 API which is designed so the reader does not have to worry about the external data type. I agree that most file users would probably prefer valid range to be an internal value. So I like the idea of another attribute for this purpose. The suggested name "unpacked_valid_range" seems appropriate. But this new attribute should be treated purely as comment information for humans and ignored by software doing scaling of input data. (In this respect it would be similar to "missing_value".) Harvey Davies, CSIRO Atmospheric Research, Private Bag No. 1, Aspendale 3195 E-mail: harvey.davies@xxxxxxxx Phone: +61 3 9239 4556 Fax: +61 3 9239 4444
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