Re: [ldm-users] [External] Re: GOES 16 Full Disk change

  • To: Mike Zuranski <mzuranski@xxxxxxxx>, Daniel Vietor - NOAA Affiliate <dan.vietor@xxxxxxxx>
  • Subject: Re: [ldm-users] [External] Re: GOES 16 Full Disk change
  • From: "Mullenax, Robert R. (WFF-820.0)[PERATON INC]" <robert.r.mullenax@xxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2022 18:10:13 +0000
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Thanks Mike, that clarifies for me that the ADDE datasets of EASTALL and 
WESTALL will still have SH coverage.

Best regards,
Robert Mullenax

From: "Mike Zuranski" <mzuranski@xxxxxxxx<mailto:mzuranski@xxxxxxxx>>
Subject: [ldm-users] [External] Re: GOES 16 Full Disk change
Date: 02 December 2022 10:23
To: "Daniel Vietor - NOAA Affiliate" 
<dan.vietor@xxxxxxxx<mailto:dan.vietor@xxxxxxxx>>
Cc: "LDM" <ldm-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:ldm-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>

Hi Dan,

All indications I've seen indicate these are permanent changes.

I should also clarify that this is only for NOAAPort/SBN tiles.  Full-Disk data 
that transmits via GRB will still be both hemispheres.  For McIDAS-X and IDV 
users, Unidata makes the GRB imagery available over the ADDE EAST/EASTALL and 
WEST/WESTALL feeds.

-Mike


Mike Zuranski
Data Engineer II
Unidata Program Center
University Corporation for Atmospheric Research


On Fri, Dec 2, 2022 at 10:13 AM Daniel Vietor - NOAA Affiliate 
<dan.vietor@xxxxxxxx<mailto:dan.vietor@xxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Are we confident at this point that full disk sectors will only be NH for the 
conceivable future? In other words, there is no intention to bring SH coverage 
back. If so, some of my image post-processing would be greatly reduced if I 
only processed NH.

Dan.


On Fri, Dec 2, 2022 at 9:57 AM Sebenste, Gilbert 
<sebensteg@xxxxxxx<mailto:sebensteg@xxxxxxx>> wrote:
I’ll also throw in that GOES-17 was supposed to lose southern disk imagery on 
November 29 per the SCN, but NESDIS has not scheduled a new public date yet. 
I’m guessing before Christmas. NOUS72 KNES
will have the announcement.  We literally got 21 hours of warning before they 
pulled the plug on the GOES-16 rescheduled date and time.

Gilbert

Gilbert Sebenste
Meteorology Support Analyst
College of DuPage

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Subject: [External] Re: [ldm-users] GOES 16 Full Disk change

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Hi Jim,

Yes this change was intentional, in an effort to conserve bandwidth over 
NOAAPort/SBN essentially.

This was originally supposed to happen a couple of weeks ago, here's the SCN 
outlining the full set of changes and reasoning: 
https://www.weather.gov/media/notification/pdf2/scn22-94_geo_spectral_coverage_goes-eastwest.pdf<https://gcc02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.weather.gov%2Fmedia%2Fnotification%2Fpdf2%2Fscn22-94_geo_spectral_coverage_goes-eastwest.pdf&data=05%7C01%7Crobert.r.mullenax%40nasa.gov%7Cd44b98ec23e648e3969008dad4819040%7C7005d45845be48ae8140d43da96dd17b%7C0%7C0%7C638055950184466193%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=WE1w9Fjbvjb2e7%2F7LNSyqzm8lqBspz%2Fja8OQl0rUrIk%3D&reserved=0>

The dates in that SCN came and went, but NESDIS also issued this earlier this 
week announcing the new date for GOES-16: 
https://weather.cod.edu/textserv/raw/KNES/NOUS72_ADMNES/202211302119<https://gcc02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fweather.cod.edu%2Ftextserv%2Fraw%2FKNES%2FNOUS72_ADMNES%2F202211302119&data=05%7C01%7Crobert.r.mullenax%40nasa.gov%7Cd44b98ec23e648e3969008dad4819040%7C7005d45845be48ae8140d43da96dd17b%7C0%7C0%7C638055950184622422%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=IL97%2BI8WcmLVyCVKttxtYZRgtHp0fD7z09cPazMld2c%3D&reserved=0>

The same will happen for GOES-17/18 but I'm not aware of a date for that yet.

-Mike


Mike Zuranski
Data Engineer II
Unidata Program Center
University Corporation for Atmospheric Research


On Fri, Dec 2, 2022 at 9:45 AM Weber, Jim via ldm-users 
<ldm-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:ldm-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Did anyone else notice after 18z yesterday there was a change in the Full Disk 
files for GOES 16?  The dimensions of the file for many if not all the channels 
changed. Was this an intentional change?  In fact, when you display the Full 
Disk imagery now it is only the Northern Hemisphere, not a full disk view.


Jim Weber



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