Re: [ldm-users] filters on NOAAPort dishes?

You definitely won't have them now, Steve. Good job!

Gilbert

> On Apr 30, 2021, at 5:44 PM, Stephen Adams via ldm-users 
> <ldm-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> 
> Thanks everyone for your thoughts.
> Although we haven't had any interference problems yet... better safe than 
> sorry. We just had a filter installed. Easy peasy!
> 
> Steve
> 
> 
>> On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 12:29 PM Raymond Weber <admin@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> I have 5g sites on these adjacent frequencies all around me. I have had no 
>> issues with a 12 ft dish.
>> 
>> a good LNB, norcomm etc, seems to be the key.
>> 
>> Ray
>> From: ldm-users <ldm-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> on behalf of Gilbert 
>> Sebenste <gilbert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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>> Subject: Re: [ldm-users] filters on NOAAPort dishes?
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>> Hi Steve,
>> 
>> Short answer: absolutely.
>> 
>> More thorough answer: Absolutely. With our dish at AllisonHouse, we have 
>> been dealing with this issue for the better part of a year. We did a 
>> complete refurbishment on it last year. We bought the highest quality coax, 
>> an LNB with a notch filter to only let our part of the spectrum through, and 
>> everything else is heavily shielded.
>> 
>> Our dish is in the middle of what I call "TI Hell": several cellular towers, 
>> each with different carriers already broadcasting 5G, are nearby. On top of 
>> that, just down the road, are multiple commercial and PBS television 
>> stations, some of which transmit at 1 million watts Effective Radiated Power 
>> (1 MW ERP). We also have 100 kilowatt (kw) FM and 50 kw AM radio towers 
>> nearby, as well as an active railroad line close by, producing vibrations, 
>> which I also had to deal with. Our engineer showed me the readout at the 
>> dish from his spectrum analyzer: it was dang ugly. Throw in COVID-19, and I 
>> had serious challenges to overcome getting this done. I'm happy to say that 
>> by dealing with all of those problems all at once, I can sleep at night. The 
>> only times our dish has issues is if the uplink dies, or there's heavy snow, 
>> or a thunderstorm. Standard fare for satellite reception.
>> 
>> With that, we can still lose 10,000 to 20,000 packets a day on days when our 
>> data center generator is tested. But overall, our packet losses are low, and 
>> I'm generally happy with the reception.
>> 
>> SSEC is another success story. No offense to them, but for quite a long 
>> time, their NOAAport reception was bad. They also did a dish refurbishment, 
>> and bought the best LNB money could buy, which is heavily filtered. When all 
>> was said and done, they now generally lose *zero* packets per day. They got 
>> a 15 dB signal increase(!), and they do have 5G towers close to them. They 
>> are another model for how to do it right in a challenging RF environment.
>> 
>> Gilbert
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Apr 28, 2021, at 11:05 AM, Stephen Adams via ldm-users 
>>> <ldm-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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>>> 
>>> Good morning all,
>>> 
>>> This pertains to everyone who has a satellite NOAAPort feed.
>>> 
>>> Given the impending C-band repack to support 5G, are you planning to 
>>> install a filter on your dish? Although the NOAAPort frequency is outside 
>>> of the 5G range, it is my understanding that the filter is required due to 
>>> increased crowding in the upper C-band, leading to potential interference 
>>> issues. Is that your understanding as well?
>>> 
>>> Steve
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