Re: [ldm-users] No European model data as of 12/1?

The other levels (700, 200, etc.) are "available to WMO members" with some 
restrictions, no commercial use, etc.. but to get a password for their ftp 
server, one needs to "contact our Permanent WMO rep and ask them to send an 
email to the ECMWF director."


That sounds like above my pay grade, and probably what NWS (or Unidata) should 
be investigating if we want to see this data on NOAAPORT or CONDUIT(I do!)


<Stupid question> The US is still a WMO member, correct? </Stupid question>


Pete


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Subject: Re: [ldm-users] No European model data as of 12/1?

As you mentioned, quite a few standard parameters missing, 700, 200 level, RH, 
etc.

I sure hope NWS can restore at least what was on the SBN.



On Dec 4, 2017, at 1:35 PM, Pete Pokrandt 
<poker@xxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:poker@xxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:


es and em are ensemble mean and std deviation. Should have guessed that. ws is 
wind speed. Products do go out to 10 days too, compared to 7 days previously.


Pete


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So, looking at that public ftp directory, it looks like they are no longer 
distributing any 700 hPa or 200 hPa products. There appears to be only MSLP, 
500 hPa  Heights, and 850 hPa Temp, U, V, along with some hurricane track 
products and some other things (es_msl, and em_msl, and em_ws for example) that 
I'm not sure what they are yet.


The 0.5 deg is nice, the lack of anything above 500 hPa is a bummer.


Pete



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Lovely. Thanks, Brian. Anyone: did I miss a Service Change Notice?

Gilbert

> On Dec 4, 2017, at 11:59 AM, Hughes, Brian 
> <Brian.Hughes@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:Brian.Hughes@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>
> Hi Gilbert,
>
> We have reached out to NWS regarding this. It appears ECMWF stopped
> transmitting the 2.5deg in favor of the 0.5 deg which is not currently on
> NOAAPort.
>
> -Brian
>
> --
> Duncan Jeffery (UKMET) wrote
>
> Dear colleagues
> As of 0000UTC on the 1st December ECMWF retired their GRIB
> edition-1 low resolution products.This change had been notified
> to the WMO secretariat, and appeared in the WWW Operational
> Newsletter on 12th October. The original message from ECMWF
> read:
>
> ECMWF will stop the production and transmission of GRIB edition-1
> products at 2.5x2.5 degrees on the 1st December 2017.
>
> Detailed information about these products, including the TTAAii headers,
> can be found at:
>
> (https://www.ecmwf.int/en/forecasts/datasets/public-wmo-acmad/gts-headers-gl
> obal-distribution)
>
> These deprecated products have been replaced with higher resolution
> products in GRIB edition-2, which have been available on the WIS
> (including GTS) for many years. For further details see:
> (https://www.ecmwf.int/en/forecasts/datasets/public-wmo-and-acmad-datasets)
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> The attached file lists GRIB data that is still available from ECMWF.
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> Hello everyone,
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> Over on the HRS feed, I received a limited set of European model data via
> NOAAport:
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> -rw-r-r--  1 ldm blahblah 2227608 Nov 30 12:57 12113017.gbe
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> Since the 12Z 11/30/17 run, I've received nothing. Has the NWS discontinued
> broadcasting this data over NOAAport? I didn't see any announcements about
> it.
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