Re: [gembud] NMAP2 Data Selection Window Not seeing gridded data with fhrs valid past Dec 31 2020

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  • Subject: Re: [gembud] NMAP2 Data Selection Window Not seeing gridded data with fhrs valid past Dec 31 2020
  • From: Pete Pokrandt <poker@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2020 19:42:09 +0000
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I'm sure GEMPAK is not the only software out there where this sort of thing is 
going to happen.. Wonder what is a good value to change it to? 40? After all.. 
no one will be using GEMPAK anymore in 2041, right? haha..

I wonder how big of a rewrite it would be to use 4 digit years throughout 
GEMPAK.. I shudder to think.. And that would probably break compatibility with 
all older existing GEMPAK files archived everywhere, wouldn't it?

Pete


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608-262-3086  - poker@xxxxxxxxxxxx

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From: gembud <gembud-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> on behalf of ktyle@xxxxxxxxxx 
<ktyle@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 1:29 PM
To: gembud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <gembud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [gembud] NMAP2 Data Selection Window Not seeing gridded data with 
fhrs valid past Dec 31 2020

Hah, I remember looking at that subroutine back in the Y2K days and thought, 
"well no one is going to be using GEMPAK in 2021 ... " 🙂

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From: Pete Pokrandt <poker@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 2:24 PM
To: Tyle, Kevin R <ktyle@xxxxxxxxxx>; gembud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
<gembud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [gembud] NMAP2 Data Selection Window Not seeing gridded data with 
fhrs valid past Dec 31 2020

Thanks, Kevin - you are a life saver! Nice sleuthing..

Pete



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Pete Pokrandt - Systems Programmer
UW-Madison Dept of Atmospheric and Oceanic Sciences
608-262-3086  - poker@xxxxxxxxxxxx

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From: gembud <gembud-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> on behalf of ktyle@xxxxxxxxxx 
<ktyle@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 12:33 PM
To: gembud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <gembud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [gembud] NMAP2 Data Selection Window Not seeing gridded data with 
fhrs valid past Dec 31 2020

Looks like $GEMPAK/source/gemlib/ti/tiyy24.f is the file that needs to be 
changed.


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From: gembud <gembud-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> on behalf of Patrick Marsh 
<pmarshwx@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 1:07 PM
To: Manousos, Peter C <pmanousos@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: gembud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <gembud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [gembud] NMAP2 Data Selection Window Not seeing gridded data with 
fhrs valid past Dec 31 2020

Hi, Pete,

This is the result of a GEMPAK bug within the time library. The version of 
GEMPAK you are using does not recognize the year 2021, rather it reverts back 
to 1921. So, instead of a Y2K bug, it's a Y2K21 bug.

The internal NCEP version of GEMPAK had a patch released earlier in December to 
address this bug, but I suspect no one has incorporated this patch into the 
community version.


Patrick

On Sat, Dec 26, 2020 at 12:00 PM Manousos, Peter C via gembud 
<gembud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:gembud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

Greetings.  We are experiencing an unusual problem.   NMAP2’s (v 7.1.1) data 
selection window can’t seem to detect grid files for fhrs valid past Dec 31 
2020.



This is happening with all our model grid data no matter if it’s the gfs, 
ecmwf, naefs, gefs, etc. and for what its worth, the restore files do NOT have 
a fhr limit specified.



Quick example is a listing of today’s 00z ECMWF which is typical and contains 
the basic 500, 850 and surface fields out to f240 and which we can plot just 
fine using gdplot3



-rw-rw-r-- 1 fewx fewx 890368 Dec 26 00:40 ecmwf_2020122600f000

-rw-rw-r-- 1 fewx fewx 888832 Dec 26 00:55 ecmwf_2020122600f024

-rw-rw-r-- 1 fewx fewx 887296 Dec 26 01:00 ecmwf_2020122600f048

-rw-rw-r-- 1 fewx fewx 884736 Dec 26 01:10 ecmwf_2020122600f072

-rw-rw-r-- 1 fewx fewx 882688 Dec 26 01:15 ecmwf_2020122600f096

-rw-rw-r-- 1 fewx fewx 882688 Dec 26 01:20 ecmwf_2020122600f120

-rw-rw-r-- 1 fewx fewx 882176 Dec 26 01:30 ecmwf_2020122600f144

-rw-rw-r-- 1 fewx fewx 883200 Dec 26 01:35 ecmwf_2020122600f168

-rw-rw-r-- 1 fewx fewx 883712 Dec 26 01:45 ecmwf_2020122600f192

-rw-rw-r-- 1 fewx fewx 884224 Dec 26 01:50 ecmwf_2020122600f216

-rw-rw-r-- 1 fewx fewx 884736 Dec 26 01:55 ecmwf_2020122600f240



However the data selection window in NMAP2 only shows data through fhr 120.  At 
the time of this writing fhr 120 corresponds to Dec 31 2020 00z.



By tomorrow we will only be able to see in NMAP2 data out through fhr 96 and so 
on.



We did try to mess with the Calendar function but this did not help.  If anyone 
else is experiencing this and if so any workarounds?



Pete





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