Policy Committee Meeting Summary:
May 17-18

Boulder, Colorado

Participants

Members
UPC Staff

John Merrill (Chair, U. Rhode Island)
Ken Crawford (U. Oklahoma)
Robert Fox (U. Wisc. SSEC)
David Knight (SUNY-Albany)
James Moore (St. Louis U.)
Charles Murphy (Kean College)
Julie Winkler (Michigan State)

Representatives

David Carlson (UCAR/ATD)
Harry Edmon (ATAC)
David Fulker (UPC)
Mary Glackin (NOAA)
Bernard Grant (NSF/ATM)
Clifford Jacobs (NSF/ATM)
Al Kellie (UCAR/SCD)
Mary Marlino (UCAR/PAGE)
Jennie Moody (Users Com.)
Tim Spangler (UCAR/COMET)

Sally Bates
John Caron
Steve Chiswell
Ethan Davis
Ben Domenico
Steve Emmerson
Joanne Graham
Jo Hansen
Robb Kambic
Linda Miller
Don Murray
Russ Rew
Mike Schmidt
Jeff Weber
Mike Wright
Tom Yoksas

Administrative Matters

Action 1: An update from COMET will be on a future Policy Committee meeting agenda.

Glenn Davis Eulogy

Fulker and Rew summarized the many contributions Glenn Davis had made to the Unidata Program in his 12 years as a staff member.

Status Reports

Director's Report

Fulker summarized the program's status as follows:

User Relations - Green
Data Sources - Green
Data Distribution - Green
Current Software - Green
Java Software - Yellow
Scheduling - Red
Finances - Green
Staffing - Red

Fulker noted that the three non-green areas were a direct result of the loss of Glenn Davis. He noted that the program was in excellent shape otherwise: Specifically:

The only area in which problems remain is in documentation (including Web maintenance), and plans are being implemented to address these.

Discussion

Users Committee Report and MetApps

Moody gave a brief description of the Committee's April meeting, the summary of which is on the Web. Murphy noted that the Users Committee had agreed to expand membership in MetApps. He also expressed surprise by the concerns expressed in the last Users Committee meeting about the future of GEMPAK and believed it to be a problem of better informing the community.

Discussion

Action 2: The community needs to be better informed about the work of MetApps and the ramifications of the UPC's work on Java. Bates and Murphy will explore mechanisms for further educating the community on these topics.

NASA Report
George Serafino submitted the following report via e-mail:

Update on Request for Access to Historical NCEP data at the DAAC
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Since the question of access to historical analysis data came up at the last UPC "virtual" meeting, we decided to take a harder look at exactly what is available at the GSFC DAAC. In addition to the 2 week rolling archive of NCEP datasets described at ftp://larry.gsfc.nasa.gov/pub/www/larry.html, we also have the following flavors of NCEP analyses searchable and orderable in the DAAC :

(1) NCEP and UKMO analyses used as correlative data for UARS
Time Period: 9/91 - present (2 month lag)
Format: IEEE binary
Parameters: Height, Temperature, Moisture, Winds at 18 levels (NMC) and 21 levels (UKMO)
Frequency: Once per day (12Z)
Access: http://daac.gsfc.nasa.gov/data/dataset/UARS/02_Correlative/index.html

(2) NCEP Final Analysis used as ancillary data for SeaWiFS processing
Time Period: 3/97 - present
Format: HDF
Parameters: Height, Temperature, Moisture, Winds at 18 levels
Frequency: 4 times per day (00, 06, 12, 18Z)
Access: ftp://daac.gsfc.nasa.gov/data/seawifs/anc/NCEP/

(3) Climate Prediction Center Analysis (with some mods by the Atmospheric Chemistry and Dynamics Group at GSFC)
Time Period: 11/78 - 4/96
Format: GrADS
Parameters: Height, Temperature, Balanced Winds, Potential vorticity, Relative Vorticity at 18 levels, Troposphere Pressure, Troposphere Temperature
Frequency: once per day (12Z)
Access: http://daac.gsfc.nasa.gov/CAMPAIGN_DOCS/FTP_SITE/readmes/cpc_acdb.html

(4) NCEP GDAS analysis data used as ancillary data to TRMM processing
Time Period: 4/97 - present
Format: GRIB
Parameters: All atmospheric and surface parameters from GDAS
Frequency: 4 times per day (00, 06, 12, 18Z)
Access: Not yet visible to public

In a footnote to (4), we are now engaged in an effort to ingest and archive the earlier NCEP GRIB analysis data from January, 1994 to March, 1997 which at the time was called Final Analysis or FNL for short. This should be completed by the time of the next UPC meeting. As long as NOAA/NCEP does not object, all of the GRIB data can be easily made visible and searchable for ordering by the public free of charge.

New Product from the Data Assimilation Office at NASA/GSFC
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To support the processing needs of the EOS Instrument Teams for the upcoming Terra (formerly AM-1) launch, the Data Assimilation Office at GSFC will be producing higher resolution (1 degree by 1 degree) First-Look, Late-Look, and Final Platform analyses to replace the existing 2 x 2.5 degree products. More information on the products can be found at URL http://dao.gsfc.nasa.gov/DAO_people/lucchesi/file_spec/. The products will be available via the EOSDIS Core System (ECS) component resident at the GSFC DAAC either via subscription or by placing ad hoc orders through a modified form of the current WWW Gateway (URL TBD).

NASA Federation Initiative
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As you may or may not know, NASA had embarked upon an experiment involving funding of a number of Earth Science Information Partners, or ESIPs, to explore the feasibility of a distributed but interoperable network of science systems providing data products and services to wide spectrum of users in the earth sciences (i.e., a Federation). A good overview of the strategy and goals is given at http://www.ceosr.gmu.edu/~esipfed/. The DAAC iteself is partnered with George Mason University (GMU), the Center for Land, Ocean and Atmospheres (COLA), and the University of Delaware as an ESIP focusing on seasonal to interannual climate research (see http://www.siesip.gmu.edu/ for more details). It would be interesting to see what the possibilities are in somehow tying together the UniData and ESIP nodes to create an even larger and indispensable source of earth science information and data to the constituent members as well as to the public.

Other Interoperability Items of Interest
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We have been in consultation with Peter Cornillion with regard to installation of a DODS server at the DAAC. I bring this up because I know DODS is a frequently discussed issue at the UPC and Unidata User group. Since we have a large number of HDF data in our tape archive as well as a large online inventory of binary datasets, we can capitalize on the capability of DODS to translate user-selected data into an internal format, provide subsetting or subsampling services if requested by the client, and ship the results across the net to a DODS-enabled client (either MATLAB IDL at this point) for re-interpretation and analysis. In the near term, we will apply this to data on our anonymous FTP (online) site (about 350 GB).

By experimenting with DODS we hope to:

(1) provide additional data services to our data users
(2) bring in new customers (i.e. DODS users)
(3) demonstrate an interoperability cluster as part of the EOSDIS federation mentioned previously and/or with UniData nodes if DODS is widely adopted by the latter (I could probably use a refresher course on the status of DODS and UniData; guess I'll peruse the online material from the last 2 UPC meetings).

NOAA Report

In a conference call to the committee, Mary Glackin reported:

Discussion

Action 3: Radar mosaics (of both 10-km and 1-km resolution) will be in NOAAport. The UPC will ensure that Unidata users have access to these when they become available on NOAAport.

NSF Report

Cliff Jacobs reported on the FY 1999 budget (which contained a 6.1% increase for ATM) and the NSF request for FY2000. (A copy of his presentation has been put on the Web under meeting materials for this meeting.) Bernard Grant noted that the deadline for the equipment grants was fast approaching (24 May) and that no proposals had yet been received. Awards will be made in August.

Discussion

Accessing Retrospective Data

SCD's new director, Al Kellie, joined the committee for a discussion of how university access to SCD data archives might be facilitated. Kellie and Fulker noted that a task force had been created to examine this issue (a summary of its activities is on the Web) and that SCD's data support group is working to identify a list of candidate data sets. NCAR is currently capturing NOAAport data via the IDD. These are a starting point. Kellie envisions the first step as being the design of a simple mechanism for accessing the raw data on line. He also noted that Ethan Davis (Unidata) and Ethan Alpert (SCD) are examining mechanisms for making climate simulation data available on the DODS server. Kellie noted that SCD is committed to improving data access within SCD generally and believes that a system of use to universities will evolve along with that effort.

Discussion

Action 4: The Unidata Users Committee will assess Unidata users interest in the satellite data archived at SSEC and report on this at a future Policy Committee meeting.

Action 5: Bob Fox will provide URLs to information on MODIS.

Update on Page

Mary Marlino summarized recent PAGE activities for the Committee. She briefly described the conference in November (in which the PAGE mission was refined) and PAGE's two recent proposals. One is a Digital Libraries proposal to develop a prototype digital geoscience library. Collaborators on this include IRIS, Keck, University of California at Santa Barbara, University of Colorado, among others. Marlino plans to be involved with a Digital Libraries meeting in August, and this meeting may have ramifications for the next Users summer workshop.

Discussion

International Data Issues

The exchange of e-mail between SUNY-Albany's David Knight and the Irish MetEireann, forwarded by Fulker to NSF, is on the Web. Fulker noted that SUNY-Albany's use of the data in question was clearly educational and that there was no evidence that the data were being used for profit. Furthermore, Knight noted that the data in question were not in use anywhere on SUNY's Web site; they're just made available as part of the data-recovery effort SUNY provides for Unidata users (i.e., on an FTP site). Knight responded to MetEirann's objections by simply blocking access to the data by anyone from Ireland.

Discussion

Action 6: The UPC will draft a statement of explanation on the educational use of data under WMO Resolution 40 and send the draft for comment by NWS and NSF. (The goal is to create a clear statement of responsibilities to share with Unidata users.)

Action 7: Discussion of the Action 6 draft statement will be on the agenda for the next Policy Committee meeting.

Who is a Unidata Participant?

Fulker explained that Unidata currently keeps tracks of software licenses for McIDAS and GEMPAK. This clearly undercounts Unidata participants, since the LDM and netCDF are not licensed. It also focuses on site representatives, not on users. How do we know who is a Unidata participant? What are we losing by not keeping better track of who our users are? Fulker then introduced Mike Wright, who briefly described the Open University in the United Kingdom.

OU has been doing distance education for 27 years. Its students are distributed throughout Europe and there are over 150,000 students enrolled in degree programs, plus over 60,000 involved in skills enhancement. OU has recently started using the Internet in courses (as a complement to other resources), and it has become heavily involved in offering courses tailored to particular industries (e.g., MBA courses for IBM.) They have considerable experience in engaging nontraditional students. Among the lessons Wright has gleaned from his participation in OU is that

  1. applications are necessarily becoming more integrated
  2. stand-alone tools must be designed to be integrated with other tools
  3. these trends are visible in the Unidata community; essentially Unidata users are asking for help, not just in tool development and use, but in pedagogy and the integration of tools into the classroom.

Discussion

The following resolution was proposed and then tabled:

Resolution 1: (tabled)

The Policy Committee recommends that Unidata continue to restrict its support to universities (i.e., to WMO Region 4 educational institutions) and not expand its support activities beyond this.

Action 8: Fulker will devise a new Unidata participation policy that addresses questions of licensing and access to software; the policy will include implementation. Discussion of this policy will be on the agenda for the next Policy Committee meeting.

Action 9: The Policy Committee will select new members for the Users Committee via e-mail.

Future of Unidata (Without Glenn Davis)

Dave Fulker and Russ Rew presented ideas for coping with the loss of Glenn Davis. Fulker noted that the first step was to lower stress in the office by putting the LDM and netCDF development into stasis for awhile and accepting Bob Fox's offer of help (in the form of contributed efforts from an SSEC staff member).

The second stage will be to seek new staff members. Unidata will now be filling two positions, one of which had been identified before Davis's death. The staff will carefully deliberate on how these positions should be filled. In this process, every effort will be made to encourage new creativity among the current staff while realizing that Unidata will be profoundly different. The products are certain to change, and the quality of new designs will be monitored by both internal and external review processes. Unidata will keep users informed, making every effort to identify users' expectations and fears.

Rew noted that the future may entail freezing some packages, abandoning some approaches, incorporating external methods, and engaging in new collaborations. Unidata expects guidance from the Policy Committee and the Users Committee in setting Unidata development priorities. Rew noted that there will be another release of netCDF and LDM (these were close to completion) and that Davis left some very valuable legacies: excellent code, the proven value of good abstractions and good designs, the merits of debate, and "an attitude."

Discussion

Summary of Resolutions and Action Items

Resolution 1: (tabled)

The Policy Committee recommends that Unidata continue to restrict its support to universities (i.e., to WMO Region 4 educational institutions) and not expand its support activities beyond this.

Action 1: An update from COMET will be on a future Policy Committee meeting agenda.

Action 2: The community needs to be better informed about the work of MetApps and the ramifications of the UPC's work on Java. Bates and Murphy will explore mechanisms for further educating the community on these topics.

Action 3: Radar mosaics (of both 10-km and 1-km resolution) will be in NOAAport. The UPC will ensure that Unidata users have access to these when they become available on NOAAport.

Action 4: The Unidata Users Committee will assess Unidata users interest in the satellite data archived at SSEC and report on this at a future Policy Committee meeting.

Action 5: Bob Fox will provide URLs to information on MODIS.

Action 6: The UPC will draft a statement of explanation on the educational use of data under WMO Resolution 40 and send the draft for comment by NWS and NSF. (The goal is to create a clear statement of responsibilities to share with Unidata users.)

Action 7: Discussion of the Action 6 draft statement will be on the agenda for the next Policy Committee meeting.

Action 8: Fulker will devise a new Unidata participation policy that addresses questions of licensing and access to software; the policy will include implementation. Discussion of this policy will be on the agenda for the next Policy Committee meeting.

Action 9: The Policy Committee will select new members for the Users Committee via e-mail.

 

 

 


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