Re: [ldm-users] [EXTERNAL] [BULK] Re: Synoptic data from Sweden

  • To: Greg Thompson <gthompsn@xxxxxxxx>, "ldm-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <ldm-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Subject: Re: [ldm-users] [EXTERNAL] [BULK] Re: Synoptic data from Sweden
  • From: "Mullenax, Robert R. (WFF-820.0)[PERATON INC]" <robert.r.mullenax@xxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2024 17:13:52 +0000
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Hi Greg,

I noticed the same thing with the disappearance of Sweden UA data. Thanks!

Robert

From: ldm-users <ldm-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Greg Thompson
Sent: Friday, March 1, 2024 11:08 AM
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Just another data item regarding data from Sweden.  I had noticed over a year 
ago that zero radiosonde data from Sweden was found on the LDM circuit and 
asked my Unidata colleague to help investigate.  Sweden delivers only BUFR 
format radiosonde, not legacy text (TAC or TEMP as it has been called).  It 
took some digging but someone in NCO was able to discover the header was 
missing in their pass through of the data.  Sweden's radiosonde data resumed 
delivery via LDM when that action took place in the last 6 months.

There's a remote chance their bulletins might also be missing from LDM for 
SYNOP data although it seems BUFR-only delivery may also be the cause.

Lastly, FYI, I made global and regional area maps of radiosonde data locations 
from nearly a year of data and distinguishing BUFR sites, BUFR + text, and 
text-only sites if anyone wants to see them. Just email me and I can share 
those with anyone.  I updated the maps from 2022 data so any changes since Dec 
2022 are not reflected (and are not terribly likely).

Greg


On Fri, Mar 1, 2024 at 9:58 AM Mullenax, Robert R. (WFF-820.0)[PERATON INC] via 
ldm-users <ldm-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:ldm-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Hi Kevin,

Looks like that may be the case. I have never messed with BUFR files at all..

https://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/docs/restricted_data/r40synop/

Thanks,
Robert



From: Kevin C Baggett <kevinb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:kevinb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
Sent: Friday, March 1, 2024 10:13 AM
To: Mullenax, Robert R. (WFF-820.0)[PERATON INC] 
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Cc: Stonie Cooper <cooper@xxxxxxxx<mailto:cooper@xxxxxxxx>>; 
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Not sure, but could they be only be putting these out in BUFR format now?
Kevin

On Mar 1, 2024, at 8:18 AM, Mullenax, Robert R. (WFF-820.0)[PERATON INC] via 
ldm-users <ldm-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:ldm-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

Hmm..that’s weird. Ok thanks, Stonie. I had noticed that some were one digit 
off what was in the GEMPAK station tables.

From: Stonie Cooper <cooper@xxxxxxxx<mailto:cooper@xxxxxxxx>>
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This doesn't really answer your question, but specific to your example, I find 
that Ritsem is on the stream, but with syntopic ID 02012, not 02013, as the 
ogimet shows.

Stonie Cooper, PhD
Software Engineer III
NSF Unidata Program Center
University Corporation for Atmospheric Research
I acknowledge that the land I live and work on is the traditional home of The 
Chahiksichahiks (Pawnee), The Umoⁿhoⁿ (Omaha), and The Jiwere (Otoe).


On Fri, Mar 1, 2024 at 8:03 AM Mullenax, Robert R. (WFF-820.0)[PERATON INC] via 
ldm-users <ldm-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:ldm-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Good morning,

I am looking for synoptic obs from Sweden that can be found here:

Display synops by contries 
(ogimet.com)<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.ogimet.com/display_synopsc2.php?lang=en&estado=Swed&tipo=ALL&ord=REV&nil=SI&fmt=txt&ano=2024&mes=02&day=29&hora=12&anof=2024&mesf=03&dayf=01&horaf=12&send=send__;!!Mak6IKo!LOndWxq84lx7MDR4SKQRE8vVPgerpQSiALtp30oqrdFXCDxQca9qBLAFvpEBk7B_kXNOOGL5rnrIB0wF04Dd88D7YEPJ$>

I am not seeing them in NOAAPort either on our ingest, not on Unidata’s 
motherlode:

https://motherlode.ucar.edu/native/text/syn/synoptic_20240301_1200.txt<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://motherlode.ucar.edu/native/text/syn/synoptic_20240301_1200.txt__;!!Mak6IKo!LOndWxq84lx7MDR4SKQRE8vVPgerpQSiALtp30oqrdFXCDxQca9qBLAFvpEBk7B_kXNOOGL5rnrIB0wF04Dd8418nmBK$>

Also not in Iowa State’s archive:

https://mtarchive.geol.iastate.edu/2024/02/24/text/syn/<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://mtarchive.geol.iastate.edu/2024/02/24/text/syn/__;!!Mak6IKo!LOndWxq84lx7MDR4SKQRE8vVPgerpQSiALtp30oqrdFXCDxQca9qBLAFvpEBk7B_kXNOOGL5rnrIB0wF04Dd85xEtZoE$>

Is anyone else seeing these stations? Sta numbers 02013 through 02679?

Thanks very much,
Robert Mullenax
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