Hi Gregg,
Thanks for this comment. It seemed odd to me, so it sounds like he got confused or something.
I knew that they routinely switch between the ANCF in CNCF, but usually they send out an external announcement as well before they do it under the header NOUS72 KNCF. Given all that happened, it's entirely possible that message didn't get through, either.
I can't speak for Pivotal Weather, but we (AllisonHouse) also were up. And you are correct, all of those sources were indeed unaffected by the SBN/NOAAport satellite image outage.
In any case, I'm still curious as to what happened the other day…and what they are trying to do to prevent that from happening again, or at least plan for future redundancy.
Gilbert On Jul 20, 2023, at 12:41 PM, Gregory Grosshans <address@hidden> wrote:
Hi Gilbert,
The response you received about the protocol was in regards to the GOES data outage over the SBN/NOAAPORT early in July that lasted 10+ hours. During that outage, those with GRB systems, connections to the PDA, and from my understanding the NESDIS operational cloud continued to have real-time GOES data. I did hear Pivotal Weather had GOES imagery during the outage but am unsure where they obtain the data, perhaps the GOES data is on the NOAA public cloud.
NCF did email an internal NWS list yesterday about the scheduled ANCF switch to the CNCF this morning, and it looks like the SBN switch to BMGS was scheduled for 1315Z. NCF routinely switches between the ANCF and CNCF.
Perhaps the NWS Network Control isn't on the mailing list that announces the ANCF/CNCF switches.
Gregg
On Thu, Jul 20, 2023 at 12:19 PM Gilbert Sebenste < address@hidden> wrote: I just got this from John at NWS Network Control (NCO): "There was a lot of chatter about this issue, and the most I got out of it was the following: "eventually we found that a routing protocol had stopped running on the GOES-R end of the traffic flow before it hits NWAVE. Once that protocol was brought up, the traffic started flowing again."
How it happened, in order to keep it from re-occurring again is the current focus. Sorry I don't have more info.
John"
So...networking issues. He also doesn't know why they went to the backup uplink this morning. they are now having issues with the main uplink.
Just another day at the NWS…
Gilbert Sebenste AllisonHouse, LLC
On Jul 20, 2023, at 12:01 PM, Gilbert Sebenste <address@hidden> wrote:
I have confirmed that they went to the backup uplink this morning. I am attempting to find the root cause of the issue with their main uplink.
Gilbert On Jul 20, 2023, at 10:04 AM, Gilbert Sebenste <address@hidden> wrote:
It looks like they went over to the backup uplink at 13:15Z. That uplink always has the strongest signal and best carrier-to-noise. The signal jumped another 1 dB or so at that time.
Gilbert I just called NCO again. due to technical difficulties, a ticket was not generated last night, but one is being generated right now. I also had them add that we are still down 50% (roughly 3 dB) on the carrier to noise.
Gilbert
So it looks like on that graph that Stonie sent out it never really recovered completely. I see my signal is down roughly 2.5-3dB compared to the “normal” average
I get. Are others seeing the same?
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I just called the NWS Network Control of Operations (NCO).
They were absolutely shocked when I showed them what happened today and what's happening right now. They said nobody called in about it and nobody at the NCF or the NCO noticed this. I'm literally the first person who saw it this afternoon.
And I figured that something this bad would be noticed immediately. And the guy at NCO said "yes, I thought we would've noticed that too!".
I can't tell you how frustrated I am right now...
Hi Gilbert,
On 7/18/23 18:41, Gilbert Sebenste wrote:
> Today, it's College Of DuPage, a cellular provider turned on
> 5G at the tower 500' feet from us and wrecked our once beautiful
> signal.
Ugh!
Michael Scott: NOoooooooo!!
By the way, it looks like all of the sites reporting summary Gap
stats had high numbers of Gap messages today:
The fact that everyone had high numbers means we can not conclusively say you actually need that filter, there is clearly something else going on at a larger scale. While the timing of that 5G tower going live is _super_ coincidental with
your issues, today's numbers for everyone is even **more** coincidental IMO.
I'm not arguing against getting a better filter if you need to, if it improves your signal it could be worth it. But I am VERY interested to see tomorrow's numbers... It's not solar interference season, (ponders) what could have caused
this??
re:
> I have begun the process of getting a much better 5G filter, and
> getting it installed.
Please share with everyone CCed specifics of the 5G filter you
go with including manufacturer, cost, relevant specs, and ordering
lead time.
Seconded, please and thank you!
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