I know when I was at Unisys, we had to go through a rigorous ground survey
for terrestrial interference to see whether a dish could receive the
NOAAPort signal. It's best to do that before spending the $10K to install
the dish and finding out it was useless. I know after installing a dish on
the roof of CMC in Montreal, a nearby ground based telephone relay was 10
times the signal strength of NOAAPort. No matter what we did, we couldn't
filter out that signal. Luckily for CMC, they had a dish in their parking
lot pointed at the same satellite and we were able to use that. The CMC
building essentially shielded the telephone relay signal. I don't remember
why that signal wasn't captured by the ground survey.
It sounds to me like the FCC wants to open up more of that frequency space
to land based communications. Not knowing where receive stations are means
someone could request to the FCC to place a transmitter in your
neighborhood and thus making your NOAAPort receiver unusable. So this
sounds like an insurance policy for your dish. It says you're not required
to register. But if you don't, TI problems might pop up in the future.
My 10 cents.
Dan.
On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 11:13 PM, Gilbert Sebenste <gilbert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
> I thought it was free. Really? Yikes...why?!?
>
> Gilbert
>
> On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 3:05 PM, Rodger R. Getz <rgetz@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Has anyone done this yet? It’s a long, nasty form and requires you to pay
>> $435 for the privilege of filing with the FCC! Really?? This should have
>> been stopped in its tracks by the NWS before it got to this point.
>>
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>> On May 30, 2018, at 11:30 AM, Gregory Grosshans <
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>>
>> FYI, I believe the following is from the National Weather Association:
>>
>> *Do you have a NOAAPort Dish? Is it Registered?*
>>
>> The FCC is looking at the possibility of using the 3.7–4.2 GHz band,
>> currently used for NOAAPort transmissions, for a broader range of services
>> including wireless broadband.
>>
>> Receive-only Fixed-satellite Service (FSS) and Fixed Service (FS) sites
>> are not required to register with the FCC. For this reason, it is unknown
>> how many existing sites are receiving data using this frequency. Without
>> this information, it is difficult to assess the impacts of expanding
>> services in the 3.7–4.2 GHz frequency band.
>>
>> To understand the current landscape, the International Bureau opened a
>> 90-day filing window for applications to license or register existing earth
>> stations in the 3.7–4.2 GHz band. Stations that were constructed and
>> operational as of April 19, 2018, may file. The filing window closes on
>> July 18, 2018. Applicants must file electronically through IBFS
>> <http://licensing.fcc.gov/myibfs/> on FCC Form 312 Main Form and Form
>> 312 Schedule B <https://transition.fcc.gov/Forms/Form312/312Fill.pdf>,
>> remit the statutory application filing fee, and provide any additional
>> information required by applicable rules. See the last few paragraphs of
>> the notice (linked below) for details.
>>
>> Using IBFS link under FILE contains site instructions. The red box
>> indicates the link to create the FRN.
>>
>> The Bureau also placed a temporary freeze on applications for new or
>> modified FSS earth stations and fixed microwave stations in this band.
>>
>> For our NWS members, please note that the NWS is in the process of
>> registering their antennas.
>>
>> More information is contained in the FCC Public Notice DA-18-398
>> <https://www.fcc.gov/document/bureaus-announce-freeze-and-limited-filing-window-37-42-ghz-band>
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