Re: [conduit] CONDUIT Insert Tables Update

Daryl and Pete,

That is exactly correct. The product ID's will be uniquely defined rather
than generic. This should not impact the number of products in the queue.
My apologies for not being more clear for the anticipated changes.

Regards,
William

On Wed, Oct 18, 2023 at 3:42 PM Pete Pokrandt <poker@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Daryl,
>
> I'm guessing he means to get the product info back into the metadata for
> most of the model data on the CONDUIT stream.
>
> Prior to the fix, after the file name and exclamation point, there was
> info about the forecast hour/variable/level at the end, like
>
> 20210621T163257.947961Z pqutil[37223]
> pqutil.c:display_watch:1186         INFO       75741 20210621163239.720822
> CONDUIT 064
>  data/nccf/com/gfs/prod/gfs.20210621/12/atmos/gfs.t12z.pgrb2.1p00.f225
> !grib2/ncep/GFS/#000/202106211200F225/HGHT/0 hPa PRES! 000064
> 20210621T163257.948000Z pqutil[37223]
> pqutil.c:display_watch:1186         INFO       77396 20210621163239.820916
> CONDUIT 065
>  data/nccf/com/gfs/prod/gfs.20210621/12/atmos/gfs.t12z.pgrb2.1p00.f225
> !grib2/ncep/GFS/#000/202106211200F225/TMPK/0 hPa PRES! 000065
> 20210621T163257.948039Z pqutil[37223]
> pqutil.c:display_watch:1186         INFO     1213997 20210621163241.523907
> CONDUIT 047
>  data/nccf/com/gfs/prod/gfs.20210621/12/atmos/gfs.t12z.pgrb2.0p25.f225
> !grib2/ncep/GFS/#000/202106211200F225/SPFH/0 hPa PRES! 000047
> 20210621T163257.948126Z pqutil[37223]
> pqutil.c:display_watch:1186         INFO      170943 20210621163228.510736
> CONDUIT 738
>  data/nccf/com/gfs/prod/gfs.20210621/12/atmos/gfs.t12z.pgrb2.0p50.f222
> !grib2/ncep/GFS/#000/202106211200F222/VREL/-2 K*m**2*kg-1*s-1 POTV! 000738
>
> Since the migration to RHEL8 and a newer version of the ldm, they have
> been coming through with generic default filler info for every product, like
>
> 20231015T041432.757539Z pqutil[27287]
> pqutil.c:display_watch:1186         INFO       82796 20231015041414.643571
> CONDUIT 659
>  data/nccf/com/gfs/v16.3/gfs.20231015/00/atmos/gfs.t00z.pgrb2.1p00.f162
> !grib2/ncep/GFS/#000/FHRS//LVL! 000659
> 20231015T041432.757575Z pqutil[27287]
> pqutil.c:display_watch:1186         INFO       67717 20231015041414.636494
> CONDUIT 650
>  data/nccf/com/gfs/v16.3/gfs.20231015/00/atmos/gfs.t00z.pgrb2.1p00.f162
> !grib2/ncep/GFS/#000/FHRS//LVL! 000650
> 20231015T041432.757608Z pqutil[27287]
> pqutil.c:display_watch:1186         INFO       81162 20231015041414.644156
> CONDUIT 660
>  data/nccf/com/gfs/v16.3/gfs.20231015/00/atmos/gfs.t00z.pgrb2.1p00.f162
> !grib2/ncep/GFS/#000/FHRS//LVL! 000660
>
> If you rely on the variable or level info after that exclamation point, as
> I do for some of my product sorting, that all broke with this change.
>
> I would guess this change is to resolve that info. William, Mike, would
> you concur?
>
> Pete
>
> Pete Pokrandt - System Engineer IV
> UW-Madison Dept of Atmospheric and Oceanic Sciences
> 608-262-3086  - poker@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> ------------------------------
> *From:* conduit <conduit-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> on behalf of Herzmann,
> Daryl E [AGRON] <akrherz@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 18, 2023 10:25 AM
> *To:* CONDUIT Users List <conduit@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; William Boll - NOAA
> Federal <william.boll@xxxxxxxx>
> *Cc:* _NWS NCEP NCO Dataflow <nco.dataflow@xxxxxxxx>
> *Subject:* Re: [conduit] CONDUIT Insert Tables Update
>
> Hi William,
>
> Curiosity always kills my cat...  Could you kindly and briefly further
> describe what this change means?  "variables to be defined in the LDM
> queue" doesn't ring any bells for me as to what this change means.
> Modifying product names can certainly be very impactful to downstream users.
>
> daryl
>
> ________________________________________
> From: conduit <conduit-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> on behalf of William
> Boll - NOAA Federal via conduit <conduit@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2023 7:21 AM
> To: CONDUIT Users List
> Cc: _NWS NCEP NCO Dataflow
> Subject: [conduit] CONDUIT Insert Tables Update
>
> Attention CONDUIT Users,
>
> Beginning on October 23, 2023 at 1500z, NCO Dataflow will make an update
> to the LDM insert tables on our CONDUIT systems. This will allow for
> individual variables to be defined in the LDM queue for the data products .
> We are not expecting any impacts to downstream users. If however you do
> encounter issues, please report them to NCO Dataflow (
> ncep.pmb.dataflow@xxxxxxxx<mailto:ncep.pmb.dataflow@xxxxxxxx>) as soon as
> possible.
>
>
> Thank You,
> William
>
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