Re: [cf-satellite] About satellite names

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Gansham,

I may be wrong, but I think what you are suggesting is pushing the boundaries of CF a bit far. I appreciate your issue, but I see a number of thorny problems that will need to be addressed. For one example, how do you specify the interpolation method? I expect that it would not be safe to assume that it would be linear, or that it would be the same in every case.

Grace and peace,

Jim

On 2/17/2012 9:14 PM, ghansham sangar wrote:
Hi..

Well that is a real good document.
But I have a point here.
According to this document for storing lat/lon information for different resolution bands we should store the lat/lon too at different resolution which I feel is a bit expensive way it blows up the product size. Some way should be worked out to store lat/lon information once only and
derive lat/lon information for different resolution from there only.

regards
Ghansham

On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 7:57 PM, Jim Biard <jim.biard@xxxxxxxx <mailto:jim.biard@xxxxxxxx>> wrote:

    Hi.

I suggest that we follow existing standards for handling this. Our primary inspiration for how to handle this should probably be
    the ISO 19115-2 metadata standard.  It specifies three (at least!)
    elements for specifying the system used for acquiring or producing
    the data.  In short form they are project, platform, and
    instrument.  The full names are:

        * 
/gmi:MI_Metadata/gmd:identificationInfo/gmd:MD_DataIdentification/gmd:descriptiveKeywords/gmd:MD_Keywords/gmd:keyword/gco:CharacterString
          with gmd:MD_KeywordTypeCode="project" (there are actually 3
          different ways you can do this one!)
        * 
acquisitionInformation/MI_AcquisitionInformation/instrument/MI_Instrument/mountedOn/MI_Platform/identifier/MD_Identifier/code/CharacterString
        * 
acquisitionInformation/MI_AcquisitionInformation/instrument/MI_Instrument/citation/CI_Citation/identifier/MD_Identifier/code/CharacterString


    The Unidate netCDF Attribute Convention for Dataset Discovery
    specifies the attribute project, and this works together with THREDDS.

    At NOAA NCDC, where I work, we have developed a standard for the
    metadata we are storing in our Climate Data Records Program files.
    (You can see the entire standard at
    
ftp://ftp.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/sds/cdrp-guid-0042-v1.0-netcdf-metadata-guidelines-for-ioc-noaa-cdrs.pdf)

    As it relates to this topic, our standard specifies the use of
    attributes named project, platform, and sensor.  They have the
    advantage of being applicable to a much wider variety of systems
    than satellites.  The definitions of these attributes in the
    standard are (they can all be multi-valued):

    project

        Name of the scientific project(s) for which the data was created.
        Use as needed. If available, select a project name from the
        NASA GCMD Project Keywords list (see PDF reference or copy
        from TXT).

    platform

        Keywords for the platforms that contribute to the dataset.
        Select keywords from the NASA GCMD Platform Keywords list as
        applicable (see PDF reference or copy from TXT).

    sensor

        Keywords for the instruments that contribute to the dataset.
        Select keywords from the NASA GCMD Instrument Keywords list as
        applicable (see PDF reference or copy from TXT).

    Notice that in all three definitions NASA GCMD Keywords lists are
    referenced.  These lists are a set of controlled vocabularies that
    contain names for many satellites that have been launched (or will
    be launched in the near future), the instruments that are on those
    satellites, and for many, many other systems.  They also have a
    system in place for submitting new keywords.  I am currently
    working on producing a netCDF product from NPP-JPSS (project)
    SUOMI-NPP (platform) VIIRS (sensor) data.  I strongly recommend
    that we use these GCMD keyword vocabularies rather than rolling
    our own.

    You can check out all that GCMD has to offer at their web site
    (http://gcmd.nasa.gov/).  You can download PDFs of the lists at
    http://gcmd.nasa.gov/Resources/valids/.

    Having said all that, the GCMD platform keyword for Martin's
    example seems to be missing!  They have the platform keyword MSG,
    but no MSG-N, or any METEOSAT-8 or -9.  I guess that means no one
has submitted them yet, or that it hasn't been published yet. This an be addressed by an interested party at
    http://gcmd.nasa.gov/User/authoring.html.  (You must obtain a user
    account to do so.)

    Grace and peace,

    Jim


    On 2/16/2012 10:32 AM, Martin Raspaud wrote:
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    Hi all,

    I'm in the process of reviewing proposals for level 2 product formats
    (netcdf/cf) of some european cooperation. In the midst of this come the
    question of satellite names.

    It seems quite common here to interchange MSG2 with meteosat9 for
    example, while only the latter is the commissioning name. So there is
    often a mix between pre- and post-commissioning names in the documents I
    read.

    I know we haven't decided yet on any attributes, but maybe we could
    start making some proposals to get things clearer.

    So here is a first proposal for an attribute for satellite name:

    "satellite": The name of the satellite after commissioning, with a "-"
    character to separate series from number if needed. Eg: meteosat-9, goes-15

    What do you think ?

    Best regards,
    Martin
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