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Re: Problems with GRIB feature collections



To make it more real,  I can send you 201711 and 201712  should not be very 
big.  Will send just the pressure files.  Same problems occurs everywhere,  
they are out biggest product.

Give me about 20 minutes.

-Roy


> On Dec 6, 2017, at 1:36 PM, Sean Arms <address@hidden> wrote:
> 
> Can I get a copy of the files from December 4th? If that is too large,
> I can work with the gbx9 and ncx3 files.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Sean
> 
> 
> On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 2:30 PM, Roy Mendelssohn - NOAA Federal
> <address@hidden> wrote:
>> The latest time range is correct based on the files in the directory.    The 
>> files are in sub directories like 201712, so given that the xml defines "as 
>> directory"  it is doing that and is finding the correct times, if that helps 
>> at all.
>> 
>> -Roy
>> 
>>> On Dec 6, 2017, at 1:19 PM, Sean Arms <address@hidden> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Roy,
>>> 
>>> This might take a bit. If we look at the time range on the "Best"
>>> collection, we get:
>>> 
>>> Start: 2013-02-21T00:00:00Z
>>> End: 2017-12-09T06:00:00Z
>>> 
>>> However, if we look at the time range on the "latest" (201712), we get:
>>> 
>>> Start: 2017-12-01T00:00:00Z
>>> End: 2017-12-04T18:00:00Z
>>> 
>>> It's not clear where anything after 2017-12-04T18:00:00Z is coming
>>> from, but I think I have a way of tracking it down if it isn't a bug
>>> (again, it will just take a bit of time).
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Sean
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 12:47 PM, Roy Mendelssohn - NOAA Federal
>>> <address@hidden> wrote:
>>>> Okay the TwoD datasets are showing.  I still see the same issue with the 
>>>> last time.  Can easily send you sample data if that would help.
>>>> 
>>>> -ROy
>>>> 
>>>>> On Dec 6, 2017, at 11:38 AM, Sean Arms <address@hidden> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hmmm. Can you try removing the ncx files to force the TDM to regenerate 
>>>>> them? Both the TDS and TDM will need to be restarted.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sean
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 12:17 PM Roy Mendelssohn - NOAA Federal 
>>>>> <address@hidden> wrote:
>>>>> Adding that appears to have sent that dataset into never-neverland.  Now 
>>>>> I get no response.  DOn't see an error in the log file either.
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Roy
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Dec 6, 2017, at 10:53 AM, Sean Arms <address@hidden> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Greetings Roy,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sorry for the delay - I've been in a teleconference all morning.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> So the TDS may be picking up on the fact that some of those records
>>>>>> are encoded as forecasts. That's possible, and I'll keep that in mind.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The xml snippet should look like this (change made to first line to add 
>>>>>> TwoD):
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> <gribConfig datasetTypes="TwoD Best LatestFile">
>>>>>>  <pdsHash>
>>>>>>      <useTableVersion>false</useTableVersion>
>>>>>>  </pdsHash>
>>>>>> </gribConfig>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sean
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 11:05 AM, Roy Mendelssohn - NOAA Federal
>>>>>> <address@hidden> wrote:
>>>>>>> BTW - I should add that the 1-degree data is a special run that they do 
>>>>>>> for us,  and the way I understand it in their processing terms the 00 
>>>>>>> and 12 files are considered real-time,  while the 06 and 18 files are 
>>>>>>> considered "forecasts".  They have different filenames because of that, 
>>>>>>> for example:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> US058GMET-GR1mdl.0018_0240_00000F0RL2017120400_0102_000000-000000pres
>>>>>>> US058GMET-GR1mdl.0018_0240_00000F0OF2017120418_0102_000000-000000pres
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> That is why in the regex for the time I have to skip two spaces.  In 
>>>>>>> case this info helps any:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> wgrib -V 
>>>>>>> US058GMET-GR1mdl.0018_0240_00000F0RL2017120400_0102_000000-000000pres
>>>>>>> rec 1:21:date 2017120400 PRMSL kpds5=2 kpds6=102 kpds7=0 levels=(0,0) 
>>>>>>> grid=240 MSL anl:
>>>>>>> PRMSL=Pressure reduced to MSL [Pa]
>>>>>>> timerange 0 P1 0 P2 0 TimeU 1  nx 360 ny 181 GDS grid 0 num_in_ave 0 
>>>>>>> missing 0
>>>>>>> center 58 subcenter 0 process 18 Table 2 scan: WE:SN winds(N/S)
>>>>>>> latlon: lat  -90.000000 to 90.000000 by 1.000000  nxny 65160
>>>>>>>        long 0.000000 to -1.000000 by 1.000000, (360 x 181) scan 64 mode 
>>>>>>> 128 bdsgrid 1
>>>>>>> min/max data 95236 104736  num bits 10  BDS_Ref 9523.6  DecScale -1 
>>>>>>> BinScale 0
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> wgrib -V 
>>>>>>> US058GMET-GR1mdl.0018_0240_00000F0OF2017120418_0102_000000-000000pres
>>>>>>> rec 1:0:date 2017120418 PRMSL kpds5=2 kpds6=102 kpds7=0 levels=(0,0) 
>>>>>>> grid=240 MSL anl:
>>>>>>> PRMSL=Pressure reduced to MSL [Pa]
>>>>>>> timerange 0 P1 0 P2 0 TimeU 1  nx 360 ny 181 GDS grid 0 num_in_ave 0 
>>>>>>> missing 0
>>>>>>> center 58 subcenter 0 process 18 Table 3 scan: WE:SN winds(N/S)
>>>>>>> latlon: lat  -90.000000 to 90.000000 by 1.000000  nxny 65160
>>>>>>>        long 0.000000 to -1.000000 by 1.000000, (360 x 181) scan 64 mode 
>>>>>>> 128 bdsgrid 1
>>>>>>> min/max data 94770 104260  num bits 10  BDS_Ref 9477  DecScale -1 
>>>>>>> BinScale 0
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> BTW - Note the different table,  which is why I have include in the xml 
>>>>>>> the stuff about:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>         <pdsHash>
>>>>>>>            <useTableVersion>false</useTableVersion>
>>>>>>>         </pdsHash>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -Roy
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Dec 6, 2017, at 6:09 AM, Sean Arms <address@hidden> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> For the second question regarding "full" vs "best", this has to do 
>>>>>>>> with how the overall collection is aggregated. For the half-degree 
>>>>>>>> NAVGEM, you have monthly collections of grids, but none of the 
>>>>>>>> forecasts overlap. Therefore, the overall collection aggregation 
>>>>>>>> exposes all of the grids. For the one degree, it looks like the TDS 
>>>>>>>> thinks there was an overlap in the grids (i.e. two grids with the same 
>>>>>>>> valid time), and so one of the overlapped grids was "better" (i.e. 
>>>>>>>> closer to a runtime) and the other was dropped to make a "best" 
>>>>>>>> collection. However, I don't see that happening in any of the monthly 
>>>>>>>> collections listed, so it is probably a bug. In the xml for these two 
>>>>>>>> collections, can you add "TwoD" to the datasetTypes attribute of the 
>>>>>>>> gribConfig element? That will give us a bit more information.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>> NOAA/NMFS
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>>>>>>> -MLK Jr.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> **********************
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>>>>> Government or NOAA."
>>>>> **********************
>>>>> Roy Mendelssohn
>>>>> Supervisory Operations Research Analyst
>>>>> NOAA/NMFS
>>>>> Environmental Research Division
>>>>> Southwest Fisheries Science Center
>>>>> ***Note new street address***
>>>>> 110 McAllister Way
>>>>> Santa Cruz, CA 95060
>>>>> Phone: (831)-420-3666
>>>>> Fax: (831) 420-3980
>>>>> e-mail: address@hidden www: http://www.pfeg.noaa.gov/
>>>>> 
>>>>> "Old age and treachery will overcome youth and skill."
>>>>> "From those who have been given much, much will be expected"
>>>>> "the arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice" -MLK 
>>>>> Jr.
>>>>> 
>>>> 
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>>>> Government or NOAA."
>>>> **********************
>>>> Roy Mendelssohn
>>>> Supervisory Operations Research Analyst
>>>> NOAA/NMFS
>>>> Environmental Research Division
>>>> Southwest Fisheries Science Center
>>>> ***Note new street address***
>>>> 110 McAllister Way
>>>> Santa Cruz, CA 95060
>>>> Phone: (831)-420-3666
>>>> Fax: (831) 420-3980
>>>> e-mail: address@hidden www: http://www.pfeg.noaa.gov/
>>>> 
>>>> "Old age and treachery will overcome youth and skill."
>>>> "From those who have been given much, much will be expected"
>>>> "the arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice" -MLK 
>>>> Jr.
>>>> 
>> 
>> **********************
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>> Government or NOAA."
>> **********************
>> Roy Mendelssohn
>> Supervisory Operations Research Analyst
>> NOAA/NMFS
>> Environmental Research Division
>> Southwest Fisheries Science Center
>> ***Note new street address***
>> 110 McAllister Way
>> Santa Cruz, CA 95060
>> Phone: (831)-420-3666
>> Fax: (831) 420-3980
>> e-mail: address@hidden www: http://www.pfeg.noaa.gov/
>> 
>> "Old age and treachery will overcome youth and skill."
>> "From those who have been given much, much will be expected"
>> "the arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice" -MLK Jr.
>> 

**********************
"The contents of this message do not reflect any position of the U.S. 
Government or NOAA."
**********************
Roy Mendelssohn
Supervisory Operations Research Analyst
NOAA/NMFS
Environmental Research Division
Southwest Fisheries Science Center
***Note new street address***
110 McAllister Way
Santa Cruz, CA 95060
Phone: (831)-420-3666
Fax: (831) 420-3980
e-mail: address@hidden www: http://www.pfeg.noaa.gov/

"Old age and treachery will overcome youth and skill."
"From those who have been given much, much will be expected" 
"the arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice" -MLK Jr.