From address@hidden Mon Jun 7 07:43:16 2004 Received: from happy.unidata.ucar.edu (happy.unidata.ucar.edu [188.8.131.52]) by unidata.ucar.edu (UCAR/Unidata) with ESMTP id i57DhGtK029536; Mon, 7 Jun 2004 07:43:16 -0600 (MDT) Organization: UCAR/Unidata Keywords: 200406071343.i57DhGtK029536 Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2004 07:43:15 -0600 From: Linda Miller <address@hidden> To: Ben Domenico <address@hidden>, THREDDS Development List <address@hidden>, address@hidden Subject: Re: An alternate approach to constructing LEAD Message-ID: <address@hidden> In-Reply-To: <address@hidden> References: <address@hidden> X-Mailer: Mulberry/2.2.1 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Yeah, Ben! Though I'm not directly involved in LEAD, I have been trying to follow the activities, and it sure seems like there's a lot of planning going on without much testing, evaluation, etc. I thought it was just me, because I had missed something, but according to your note it sounds like it's time to move ahead! Hopefully the LEAD meeting in Alabama will be a great place to launch these ideas! I'm sure Beth will be ready to launch her ideas too!!! :-) Linda --On Sunday, June 06, 2004 10:53 AM -0600 Ben Domenico <address@hidden> wrote: > Hi, > > In our Unidata LEAD meetings and some email interactions with Sara Graves, I'm > getting uneasy about all the time being spent by our staff in areas which are > not > the ones in which Unidata can contribute most effectively. > > Comments by Tom and Doug bring to mind an analogy of a bunch of folks trying > to > build a house. In that context, the LEAD discussions started out with very > abstract, high-level architectural design for a house that would serve any > use the > homeowner might dream up. And now we're engaged in a lengthy analysis of > bricks, > nails, two-by-fours, copper wire, shingles, and pipe fittings (aka "atomic > tasks"). These discussions may be extremely important and valuable in the > long > run. But another view of the project is that we have in the LEAD community an > existing set of pre-fab rooms that Unidata would like to connect in some > fashion > to see if we can erect a (perhaps temporary) dwelling that's functional and > livable while the larger LEAD team assembles the ultimate house from first > principles using atoms as building blocks. > > But for starters, it would be good to see if we can do things like connect the > kitchen to the dining room so we can get food on the table. Then at least we > won't starve while others are working on the house that senses when we're > hungry, > mixes perfect martinis, serves a multi-course meal that's both delicious and > nutritious, then cleans up after us. > > So in my view, the key LEAD pre-fab components are: > > -- Real time data systems (starting with LDM/IDD/Decoders) > > -- Data assimilation (starting with ADAS) > > -- Forecast models (WRF) > > -- Data mining (starting with ADAM) > > -- Data access and visualization tools (IDV) > > -- Data and catalog services > (e.g., OPeNDAP/ADDE/THREDDS) > > -- Data forms and representations > (e.g., netCDF, AREA files, ESML, NcML, GML) > > While this list is certainly challenging, I think it's feasible to learn > about the > input, output, and configuration requirements of these systems and figure out > how > we can connect them to one another to form an end to end system. > > I'd like to work these ideas into something we can present to the larger LEAD > team > as an area where we can begin to contribute if we can identify technical > people at > the other existing tools sites to work with and spend a little less time > discussing topics that don't get us closer to the objective of getting these > tools > working with one another. > > -- Ben > > Linda Miller - address@hidden External Liaison, Unidata University Corporation for Atmospheric Research P.O. Box 3000 Boulder, CO 80307-3000 303-497-8646 fax: 303-497-8690
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