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[IDV #ZAP-910813]: IDV terminates



Greetings Tim,

Did you by any chance remove one more comment than you needed to? That
would explain the PermGenSpace thing...the one I'm thinking of is right
above the set idv_maxpermgensize call:

REM PermGenSpace errors, uncomment the line below.
set idv_maxpermgensize=128

The rest is completely normal. The *sys-package-mgr* output should only
show up when you run a new install of the IDV for the first time.

All in all, good news!

Sean

> Hi Sean,
> 
> Wonderful news, that must've been the problem because the program launches 
> beautifully! I did get a strange return in the console...
> 
> 'PermGenSpace' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
> operable program or batch file.
> 
> ...and the rest seems normal...:
> 
> C:\Program Files\IDV>jre\bin\java -Xmx512m -XX:MaxPermSize=128m 
> -Didv.enableSter
> eo=false -jar idv.jar
> *sys-package-mgr*: processing modified jar, 'C:\Program Files\IDV\idv.jar'
> *sys-package-mgr*: processing modified jar, 'C:\Program 
> Files\IDV\jre\lib\resour
> ces.jar'
> *sys-package-mgr*: processing modified jar, 'C:\Program 
> Files\IDV\jre\lib\rt.jar
> '
> *sys-package-mgr*: processing modified jar, 'C:\Program 
> Files\IDV\jre\lib\jsse.j
> ar'
> *sys-package-mgr*: processing modified jar, 'C:\Program 
> Files\IDV\jre\lib\jce.ja
> r'
> *sys-package-mgr*: processing modified jar, 'C:\Program 
> Files\IDV\jre\lib\charse
> ts.jar'
> *sys-package-mgr*: processing modified jar, 'C:\Program 
> Files\IDV\jre\lib\ext\dn
> sns.jar'
> *sys-package-mgr*: processing modified jar, 'C:\Program 
> Files\IDV\jre\lib\ext\j3
> dcore.jar'
> *sys-package-mgr*: processing modified jar, 'C:\Program 
> Files\IDV\jre\lib\ext\j3
> dutils.jar'
> *sys-package-mgr*: processing modified jar, 'C:\Program 
> Files\IDV\jre\lib\ext\lo
> caledata.jar'
> *sys-package-mgr*: processing modified jar, 'C:\Program 
> Files\IDV\jre\lib\ext\su
> njce_provider.jar'
> *sys-package-mgr*: processing modified jar, 'C:\Program 
> Files\IDV\jre\lib\ext\su
> nmscapi.jar'
> *sys-package-mgr*: processing modified jar, 'C:\Program 
> Files\IDV\jre\lib\ext\su
> npkcs11.jar'
> *sys-package-mgr*: processing modified jar, 'C:\Program 
> Files\IDV\jre\lib\ext\ve
> cmath.jar'
> 
> But, it loads now! I'm going to do some forecasting and make sure there are 
> no issues (and likely increase the memory as you suggested).
> 
> Thank you very much!!
> 
> Tim
> 
> ________________________________________
> From: Unidata IDV Support address@hidden
> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 4:50 PM
> To: Carr, Timothy Alan (MU-Student)
> Cc: address@hidden; Carr, Timothy Alan (MU-Student)
> Subject: [IDV #ZAP-910813]: IDV terminates
> 
> Ah, bingo! Ok, so the IDV tries to be "smart" when it allocates memory to the 
> Java VM. This
> has some issues on Windows XP and it looks like you are seeing those issues. 
> In the runIDV.bat
> file, there are two places you should change:
> 
> <snip>
> 
> REM See important note about this above. To bootstrap the IDV memory, 
> uncomment
> REM the line below and set to a value  in megabytes.
> REM set idv_memory=512
> 
> <snip>
> 
> <snip>
> 
> REM See important note about this above. If you cannot start the IDV because 
> of
> REM PermGenSpace errors, uncomment the line below.
> REM set idv_maxpermgensize=128
> 
> <snip>
> 
> You will need to remove the REM from the last line from each of those places. 
> Make sure
> the first looks like this:
> 
> set idv_memory=512
> 
> and the second like this:
> 
> set idv_maxpermgensize=128
> 
> If this works, try increasing the idv_memory by 128 MB increments to figure 
> out the max
> amount of memory to use. Let me know how this turns out.
> 
> Cheers!
> 
> Sean
> 
> > Sean,
> >
> > Okay with the altered runIDV.bat this is the error:
> > C:\Program Files\IDV>jre\bin\java -Xmx1330m -XX:MaxPermSize=512m 
> > -Didv.enableSte
> > reo=false -jar idv.jar
> > Error occurred during initialization of VM
> > Could not reserve enough space for object heap
> > Could not create the Java virtual machine.
> > 'se' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
> > operable program or batch file.
> > C:\Program Files\IDV>runIDV
> >
> > With the original file... (as you asked me that question originally):
> > C:\Program Files\IDV>jre\bin\java -Xmx1330m -XX:MaxPermSize=512m 
> > -Didv.enableSte
> > reo=false -jar idv.jar
> > Error occurred during initialization of VM
> > Could not reserve enough space for object heap
> > Could not create the Java virtual machine.
> >
> > Thanks for the continued help!
> >
> > Tim
> >
> > ________________________________________
> > From: Unidata IDV Support address@hidden
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 11:24 AM
> > To: Carr, Timothy Alan (MU-Student)
> > Cc: Carr, Timothy Alan (MU-Student)
> > Subject: [IDV #ZAP-910813]: IDV terminates
> >
> > Ah, I see. Ok, so one thing to try is to run the idv from the terminal. If 
> > you use cd to get
> > to the IDV directory, you should be able to run the IDV just by typing
> >
> > runIDV
> >
> > When the IDV bombs out, the terminal window will still be open so you 
> > should be able
> > to get the error. That error will tell us a lot about what is happening.
> >
> > We'll get this!
> >
> > Sean
> >
> > > Hi Sean,
> > >
> > > The attached file contains only:
> > > FILE DELETED
> > >
> > > runIDV.bat has been removed since it was found to match the FILE FILTER= 
> > > ExchangeLabs File Filter List 1: <in>*.bat file filter.
> > >
> > > I did remove the REM prior to the code you indicated. The terminal error 
> > > has changed in length (but it closes before I can read it, still).
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > Tim
> > > ________________________________________
> > > From: Unidata IDV Support address@hidden
> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 4:59 PM
> > > To: Carr, Timothy Alan (MU-Student)
> > > Cc: Carr, Timothy Alan (MU-Student)
> > > Subject: [IDV #ZAP-910813]: IDV terminates
> > >
> > > Greetings Tim,
> > >
> > > That is correct, but you will also need to add REM to the line
> > >
> > > jre\bin\java -Xmx%idv_memory%m -XX:MaxPermSize=%idv_maxpermgensize%m 
> > > -Didv.enableStereo=false -jar idv.jar %*
> > >
> > > which is 4 or so line above the one from which you removed REM,
> > > otherwise you will still be using the first one to run the IDV. I've
> > > attached a runIDV.bat file to this email - give it a try and see what
> > > happens.
> > >
> > > If that does not work we have a few other things to try. How much
> > > memory does your computer have?
> > >
> > > Cheers!
> > >
> > > Sean
> > >
> > > > I'm not 100% certain that I've done this correctly.
> > > > I've taken out the "REM" before the code regarding d3d so it now reads:
> > > > REM Use the line below instead if you want to
> > > > se the D3D version of Java 3D jre\bin\java -Xmx%idv_memory%m 
> > > > -XX:MaxPermSize=%idv_maxpermgensize%m
> > > >
> > > > -Dj3d.rend=d3d -jar idv.jar %*
> > > >
> > > > endlocal
> > > >
> > > > :end
> > > >
> > > > Is this correct? I've already run the .bat file and the same error 
> > > > occurs.
> > > > ________________________________________
> > > > From: Unidata IDV Support address@hidden
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 2:16 PM
> > > > To: Carr, Timothy Alan (MU-Student)
> > > > Cc: Carr, Timothy Alan (MU-Student)
> > > > Subject: [IDV #ZAP-910813]: IDV terminates
> > > >
> > > > Greetings Tim,
> > > >
> > > > Could you try running the IDV using direct3d? See
> > > >
> > > > https://www.unidata.ucar.edu/software/idv/docs/userguide/Faq.html#d3d
> > > >
> > > > for info on how to enable this. Please let me know if that works,
> > > >
> > > > Sean
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Sean,
> > > > >
> > > > > I've updated my video card drivers to no avail, the same thing is 
> > > > > happening.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > >
> > > > > Tim
> > > > > ________________________________________
> > > > > From: Unidata IDV Support address@hidden
> > > > > Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 10:09 AM
> > > > > To: Carr, Timothy Alan (MU-Student)
> > > > > Subject: [IDV #ZAP-910813]: IDV terminates
> > > > >
> > > > > Greetings Tim,
> > > > >
> > > > > Often the biggest issue when upgrading to 3.1 is Java3D and the
> > > > > OpenGL requirements. One thing to do it update your video card
> > > > > drivers to see if that fixes things. If that does not work, let me 
> > > > > know
> > > > > and there are some things we can change in the runIDV.bat (the IDV
> > > > > startup file) to see if we can get it going.
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > >
> > > > > Sean
> > > > >
> > > > > PS - what is the error message you are getting on the console?
> > > > >
> > > > > > Full Name: Timothy Carr
> > > > > > Email Address: address@hidden
> > > > > > Organization: University of Missouri, Columbia
> > > > > > Package Version: IDV version 3.1u1
> > > > > > Operating System: XP Pro SP5
> > > > > > Hardware:
> > > > > > Description of problem: I've recently updated to v3.1u1 and now the 
> > > > > > IDV terminates automatically while still loading in the console, 
> > > > > > before the loading screen appears.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I've tried uninstalling and reinstalling the same version, I've 
> > > > > > also tried installing a previous version (3.1), and uninstalling 
> > > > > > and running a registry cleaner, then reinstalling. I've even tried 
> > > > > > rebooting.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I don't know what else to try, but I'd really appreciate some 
> > > > > > feedback on what to do. I rely on the IDV for much of my 
> > > > > > forecasting.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thank you,
> > > > > > Tim Carr
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Ticket Details
> > > > > ===================
> > > > > Ticket ID: ZAP-910813
> > > > > Department: Support IDV
> > > > > Priority: Normal
> > > > > Status: Open
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Ticket Details
> > > > ===================
> > > > Ticket ID: ZAP-910813
> > > > Department: Support IDV
> > > > Priority: Normal
> > > > Status: Open
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > Ticket Details
> > > ===================
> > > Ticket ID: ZAP-910813
> > > Department: Support IDV
> > > Priority: Normal
> > > Status: Open
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > Ticket Details
> > ===================
> > Ticket ID: ZAP-910813
> > Department: Support IDV
> > Priority: Normal
> > Status: Open
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> Ticket Details
> ===================
> Ticket ID: ZAP-910813
> Department: Support IDV
> Priority: Normal
> Status: Open
> 
> 
> 
> 

Ticket Details
===================
Ticket ID: ZAP-910813
Department: Support IDV
Priority: Normal
Status: Open


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