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[Support #LER-901685]: Java3d version

Hey Kevin-

> I think you can close this out.  The problem seems limited to only my
> Windows workstation.  I updated its Nvidia driver and the problem with
> 2.7a1 went away . . . although it still occurs with 2.6u2.  Let me play
> with it as needed . . . most likely my box just needs a good spring
> cleaning.

Okay.  I'm still at a loss for what might be happening.

> Is there any way one can get a sense as to when new features are added
> into the nightly builds?

We can put you on the e-mail list for every check-in we do. You'll only get
about 50-60 messages/day. ;-)

I could probably be better about notifying the steering committee when
we add major features, but other than that there is no good mechanism
at the moment.  Suggestions are welcome.

Don

> Unidata IDV Support wrote:
> > Hi Kevin-
> >
> >
> >> I've been trying the IDV 2.7a1 version without included JRE on this system
> >> since recently the IDV+JRE from the nightly build has failed to load
> >> (the subject of my email yesterday--I'll send that plus the error log
> >> file in a separate email).
> >>
> >> Pardon if this is described elsewhere, but can you let me know the
> >> steps I need to take to properly integrate J3d 1.5.2's DLL and JAR files
> >> with an existing JDK1.6.13 installation?  What I found was that I had to
> >> place the DLL files in the JDK/jre/bin/ directories, and the JAR files in
> >> the JDK/jre/lib/ext directories (where JDK is the installed JDK).
> >>
> >
> > That is correct.  I usually download the window zip file
> > (e.g. j3d-1_5_2-windows-i586.zip),  and unzip it.  That will
> > create a j3d-1_5_2-windows-i586 directory and in there will be
> > the j3d-jre.zip which contains the dlls an JAR files.  I then
> > go to the jdk/jre directory and unzip j3d-jre.zip at that point.
> > It will put the dll's in lib and the jars in lib/ext.  One
> > problem I've found is that the dll's don't have the executable
> > bit set so I go in and do a chmod +x on j3*.dll.  That might
> > be just me using Cygwin though.  I also install j3d-jre.zip
> > in the jre6 directory just so I have Java3D through Firefox.
> >
> >
> >> tried this with 1.3.2, I just
> >> replace the 1.3.2 versions with the 1.5.2 ones, and now IDV is loading
> >> without displaying the "you need Java 3D >1.2" message (which was what I
> >> was getting).
> >>
> >
> > 1.3.2 required OpenGL 1.3, but 1.5.2 will switch to Direct-X if
> > it determines that the graphics card does not support that version
> > of OpenGL.  You can see which version of Java 3D you are running
> > in the Help->About... menu of the IDV under  the system tab.
> >
> > Did you upgrade the video driver to the latest?  I'm surprised
> > that an NVidia card doesn't support the latest OpenGL.  It's
> > usually ATI's that have this kind of problem.
> >
> > I tried mucking with CLASSPATH and PATH settings, but I
> >
> >> only got things to work by copying as above.
> >>
> >
> > That's the easiest way to do it and how I run on my system.
> >
> >
> >> My system is an AMD x2 64, running 32bit XP; Nvidia GeForce 8600 GT.
> >>
> >> Again, I'm more concerned with the failure of the JRE-bundled version,
> >> so await a separate email about that.
> >>
> >
> > Me too.  I'll send a separate note.
> >
> >
> >> ______________________________________________________________________
> >> Kevin Tyle, Systems Administrator               **********************
> >> Dept. of Atmospheric & Environmental Sciences   address@hidden
> >> University at Albany, ES-235                    518-442-4578 (voice)
> >> 1400 Washington Avenue                          518-442-5825 (fax)
> >> Albany, NY 12222                                **********************
> >> ______________________________________________________________________
> >>
> >> On Wed, 6 May 2009, Unidata IDV Support wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> Hi Kevin-
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> First off, just wanted to see if you got my support email I sent via the
> >>>> web yesterday?  I did not get an auto-respond message, so I think not . 
> >>>> ..
> >>>>
> >>> No, we didn't get anything from you.  If it's not related to the graphics
> >>> issue, please send it in as a separate query to address@hidden
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Secondly, as I get busy with IDV now that the semester is done, what is
> >>>> the maxium supported version of Java3D?  It appears that 1.5.2 does not
> >>>> work on Windows32, while 1.3.2 does.
> >>>>
> >>> We ship 1.5.2 with the installer and it should work with Windows provided
> >>> the graphics driver supports OpenGL 1.3 or higher.  Have you updated to 
> >>> the latest version of the driver?  What type of card is this?  When you 
> >>> say it
> >>> "doesn't work", what happens?  Do you get a grey screen or does it refuse
> >>> to start?  1.5.2 should default to Direct-X if the card says it doesn't 
> >>> support the required version.   Here's a link to some information
> >>> about the system requirements for 1.5.2:
> >>>
> >>> https://j3d-core.dev.java.net/j3d1_5_2/RELEASE-NOTES.html#Windows
> >>>
> >>> You might need the latest version of Direct-X if you are on an older
> >>> system.
> >>>
> >>> Glad to hear you are getting some time to play around with IDV.
> >>> Please let us know of any questions or issues (address@hidden).
> >>>
> >>> Don
> >>>
> >>> Ticket Details
> >>> ===================
> >>> Ticket ID: LER-901685
> >>> Department: Support IDV
> >>> Priority: Normal
> >>> Status: Open
> >>>
> >>>
> >> Hi Don,
> >>
> >> I've been trying the IDV 2.7a1 version without included JRE on this system
> >> since recently the IDV+JRE from the nightly build has failed to load
> >> (the subject of my email yesterday--I'll send that plus the error log
> >> file in a separate email).
> >>
> >> Pardon if this is described elsewhere, but can you let me know the
> >> steps I need to take to properly integrate J3d 1.5.2's DLL and JAR files
> >> with an existing JDK1.6.13 installation?  What I found was that I had to
> >> place the DLL files in the JDK/jre/bin/ directories, and the JAR files in
> >> the JDK/jre/lib/ext directories (where JDK is the installed JDK).  Having
> >> tried this with 1.3.2, I just
> >> replace the 1.3.2 versions with the 1.5.2 ones, and now IDV is loading
> >> without displaying the "you need Java 3D >1.2" message (which was what I
> >> was getting).  I tried mucking with CLASSPATH and PATH settings, but I
> >> only got things to work by copying as above.
> >>
> >> My system is an AMD x2 64, running 32bit XP; Nvidia GeForce 8600 GT.
> >>
> >> Again, I'm more concerned with the failure of the JRE-bundled version,
> >> so await a separate email about that.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>
> >> Kevin
> >> ______________________________________________________________________
> >> Kevin Tyle, Systems Administrator               **********************
> >> Dept. of Atmospheric & Environmental Sciences   address@hidden
> >> University at Albany, ES-235                    518-442-4578 (voice)
> >> 1400 Washington Avenue                          518-442-5825 (fax)
> >> Albany, NY 12222                                **********************
> >> ______________________________________________________________________
> >>
> >> On Wed, 6 May 2009, Unidata IDV Support wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> Hi Kevin-
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> First off, just wanted to see if you got my support email I sent via the
> >>>> web yesterday?  I did not get an auto-respond message, so I think not . 
> >>>> ..
> >>>>
> >>> No, we didn't get anything from you.  If it's not related to the graphics
> >>> issue, please send it in as a separate query to address@hidden
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Secondly, as I get busy with IDV now that the semester is done, what is
> >>>> the maxium supported version of Java3D?  It appears that 1.5.2 does not
> >>>> work on Windows32, while 1.3.2 does.
> >>>>
> >>> We ship 1.5.2 with the installer and it should work with Windows provided
> >>> the graphics driver supports OpenGL 1.3 or higher.  Have you updated to 
> >>> the latest version of the driver?  What type of card is this?  When you 
> >>> say it
> >>> "doesn't work", what happens?  Do you get a grey screen or does it refuse
> >>> to start?  1.5.2 should default to Direct-X if the card says it doesn't 
> >>> support the required version.   Here's a link to some information
> >>> about the system requirements for 1.5.2:
> >>>
> >>> https://j3d-core.dev.java.net/j3d1_5_2/RELEASE-NOTES.html#Windows
> >>>
> >>> You might need the latest version of Direct-X if you are on an older
> >>> system.
> >>>
> >>> Glad to hear you are getting some time to play around with IDV.
> >>> Please let us know of any questions or issues (address@hidden).
> >>>
> >>> Don
> >>>
> >>> Ticket Details
> >>> ===================
> >>> Ticket ID: LER-901685
> >>> Department: Support IDV
> >>> Priority: Normal
> >>> Status: Open
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
> > Ticket Details
> > ===================
> > Ticket ID: LER-901685
> > Department: Support IDV
> > Priority: Normal
> > Status: Open
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 


Ticket Details
===================
Ticket ID: LER-901685
Department: Support IDV
Priority: Normal
Status: Closed