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[Support #LER-901685]: Java3d version



Hi Kevin-

> I've been trying the IDV 2.7a1 version without included JRE on this system
> since recently the IDV+JRE from the nightly build has failed to load
> (the subject of my email yesterday--I'll send that plus the error log
> file in a separate email).
> 
> Pardon if this is described elsewhere, but can you let me know the
> steps I need to take to properly integrate J3d 1.5.2's DLL and JAR files
> with an existing JDK1.6.13 installation?  What I found was that I had to
> place the DLL files in the JDK/jre/bin/ directories, and the JAR files in
> the JDK/jre/lib/ext directories (where JDK is the installed JDK).  

That is correct.  I usually download the window zip file
(e.g. j3d-1_5_2-windows-i586.zip),  and unzip it.  That will
create a j3d-1_5_2-windows-i586 directory and in there will be
the j3d-jre.zip which contains the dlls an JAR files.  I then
go to the jdk/jre directory and unzip j3d-jre.zip at that point.
It will put the dll's in lib and the jars in lib/ext.  One
problem I've found is that the dll's don't have the executable
bit set so I go in and do a chmod +x on j3*.dll.  That might
be just me using Cygwin though.  I also install j3d-jre.zip
in the jre6 directory just so I have Java3D through Firefox.

> tried this with 1.3.2, I just
> replace the 1.3.2 versions with the 1.5.2 ones, and now IDV is loading
> without displaying the "you need Java 3D >1.2" message (which was what I
> was getting).  

1.3.2 required OpenGL 1.3, but 1.5.2 will switch to Direct-X if
it determines that the graphics card does not support that version
of OpenGL.  You can see which version of Java 3D you are running
in the Help->About... menu of the IDV under  the system tab.

Did you upgrade the video driver to the latest?  I'm surprised
that an NVidia card doesn't support the latest OpenGL.  It's
usually ATI's that have this kind of problem.

I tried mucking with CLASSPATH and PATH settings, but I
> only got things to work by copying as above.

That's the easiest way to do it and how I run on my system.

> My system is an AMD x2 64, running 32bit XP; Nvidia GeForce 8600 GT.
> 
> Again, I'm more concerned with the failure of the JRE-bundled version,
> so await a separate email about that.

Me too.  I'll send a separate note.

> ______________________________________________________________________
> Kevin Tyle, Systems Administrator               **********************
> Dept. of Atmospheric & Environmental Sciences   address@hidden
> University at Albany, ES-235                    518-442-4578 (voice)
> 1400 Washington Avenue                          518-442-5825 (fax)
> Albany, NY 12222                                **********************
> ______________________________________________________________________
> 
> On Wed, 6 May 2009, Unidata IDV Support wrote:
> 
> > Hi Kevin-
> >
> >> First off, just wanted to see if you got my support email I sent via the
> >> web yesterday?  I did not get an auto-respond message, so I think not . ..
> >
> > No, we didn't get anything from you.  If it's not related to the graphics
> > issue, please send it in as a separate query to address@hidden
> >
> >> Secondly, as I get busy with IDV now that the semester is done, what is
> >> the maxium supported version of Java3D?  It appears that 1.5.2 does not
> >> work on Windows32, while 1.3.2 does.
> >
> > We ship 1.5.2 with the installer and it should work with Windows provided
> > the graphics driver supports OpenGL 1.3 or higher.  Have you updated to the 
> > latest version of the driver?  What type of card is this?  When you say it
> > "doesn't work", what happens?  Do you get a grey screen or does it refuse
> > to start?  1.5.2 should default to Direct-X if the card says it doesn't 
> > support the required version.   Here's a link to some information
> > about the system requirements for 1.5.2:
> >
> > https://j3d-core.dev.java.net/j3d1_5_2/RELEASE-NOTES.html#Windows
> >
> > You might need the latest version of Direct-X if you are on an older
> > system.
> >
> > Glad to hear you are getting some time to play around with IDV.
> > Please let us know of any questions or issues (address@hidden).
> >
> > Don
> >
> > Ticket Details
> > ===================
> > Ticket ID: LER-901685
> > Department: Support IDV
> > Priority: Normal
> > Status: Open
> >
> 
> 
> Hi Don,
> 
> I've been trying the IDV 2.7a1 version without included JRE on this system
> since recently the IDV+JRE from the nightly build has failed to load
> (the subject of my email yesterday--I'll send that plus the error log
> file in a separate email).
> 
> Pardon if this is described elsewhere, but can you let me know the
> steps I need to take to properly integrate J3d 1.5.2's DLL and JAR files
> with an existing JDK1.6.13 installation?  What I found was that I had to
> place the DLL files in the JDK/jre/bin/ directories, and the JAR files in
> the JDK/jre/lib/ext directories (where JDK is the installed JDK).  Having
> tried this with 1.3.2, I just
> replace the 1.3.2 versions with the 1.5.2 ones, and now IDV is loading
> without displaying the "you need Java 3D >1.2" message (which was what I
> was getting).  I tried mucking with CLASSPATH and PATH settings, but I
> only got things to work by copying as above.
> 
> My system is an AMD x2 64, running 32bit XP; Nvidia GeForce 8600 GT.
> 
> Again, I'm more concerned with the failure of the JRE-bundled version,
> so await a separate email about that.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Kevin
> ______________________________________________________________________
> Kevin Tyle, Systems Administrator               **********************
> Dept. of Atmospheric & Environmental Sciences   address@hidden
> University at Albany, ES-235                    518-442-4578 (voice)
> 1400 Washington Avenue                          518-442-5825 (fax)
> Albany, NY 12222                                **********************
> ______________________________________________________________________
> 
> On Wed, 6 May 2009, Unidata IDV Support wrote:
> 
> > Hi Kevin-
> >
> >> First off, just wanted to see if you got my support email I sent via the
> >> web yesterday?  I did not get an auto-respond message, so I think not . ..
> >
> > No, we didn't get anything from you.  If it's not related to the graphics
> > issue, please send it in as a separate query to address@hidden
> >
> >> Secondly, as I get busy with IDV now that the semester is done, what is
> >> the maxium supported version of Java3D?  It appears that 1.5.2 does not
> >> work on Windows32, while 1.3.2 does.
> >
> > We ship 1.5.2 with the installer and it should work with Windows provided
> > the graphics driver supports OpenGL 1.3 or higher.  Have you updated to the 
> > latest version of the driver?  What type of card is this?  When you say it
> > "doesn't work", what happens?  Do you get a grey screen or does it refuse
> > to start?  1.5.2 should default to Direct-X if the card says it doesn't 
> > support the required version.   Here's a link to some information
> > about the system requirements for 1.5.2:
> >
> > https://j3d-core.dev.java.net/j3d1_5_2/RELEASE-NOTES.html#Windows
> >
> > You might need the latest version of Direct-X if you are on an older
> > system.
> >
> > Glad to hear you are getting some time to play around with IDV.
> > Please let us know of any questions or issues (address@hidden).
> >
> > Don
> >
> > Ticket Details
> > ===================
> > Ticket ID: LER-901685
> > Department: Support IDV
> > Priority: Normal
> > Status: Open
> >
> 
> 


Ticket Details
===================
Ticket ID: LER-901685
Department: Support IDV
Priority: Normal
Status: Open