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[Support #ZQO-437545]: request for IDD connection



Hi Mallory, 

Good to hear, enjoy the data, and if you come to any conclusions re your 
needs..let us know.

Cheers,

Jeff

> Hi Jeff,
> Just checked and the 18z NAM 40 is there.  We'll work with all of the
> grids for awhile and let you know what works best for us and what can be
> cut.
> Thanks again for all your help.
> Mallory
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Unidata IDD Support [mailto:address@hidden]
> Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 1:27 PM
> To: Kent Field
> Cc: address@hidden; address@hidden;
> address@hidden; Mallory Ham
> Subject: [Support #ZQO-437545]: request for IDD connection
> 
> Hi Mallory,
> 
> aeolus.ucsd.edu
> 
> Now is capable of feeding both NIMAGE and the NAM and GFS grids of the
> CONDUIT feed.
> 
> After you have had a chance to experiment with the different grids, let
> us know which ones you are using, and we may pare down the request to
> conserve bandwidth.
> 
> FYI...the 40KM NAM has many more parameters than the 20KM NAM, the 20KM
> focuses mainly on surface parameters (tho it does have higher
> resolution).
> 
> Enjoy,
> 
> Jeff Weber
> 
> > Jeff,
> >
> > Yes, I saw the multiple grids - now I understand - each grid is a
> subset
> > of the conduit feed?
> >
> > I'm not sure exactly what to request but recognize the need to be
> > efficient with bandwidth.  Our forecasting needs tend to be small
> scale
> > / high resolution.  When forecasting air quality and fire weather the
> > highest resolution wind and pressure grids are the most useful.  I
> have
> > FX-Net loaded and often use the NAM12 for my forecast.  We also have
> > access to the MM5 through the Desert Research Institute.  However,
> > during the rainy season it is useful to track storms as they form and
> > move in from the Pacific so the GFS 2.5 degree resolution works well.
> >
> > Initially, I am inclined to request the three GFS grids
> (#004,#003,#002)
> > and two NAM grids #212(40km) and #215(20km).  We may be able to
> > discontinue the NAM40 and either the GFS 0.5 or GFS 1.0 or both.  It
> > would be helpful if we could work with all these grids a bit before
> > deciding.
> >
> > I can't tell for sure what GFS grids Rob Dale is using.  It looks like
> > the only NAM grid he is using is the NAM40.  I'm pretty sure we would
> > prefer the NAM 20.
> >
> > What do you think?
> >
> > Mallory
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Unidata IDD Support
> [mailto:address@hidden]
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 9:26 AM
> > To: Kent Field
> > Cc: address@hidden; address@hidden;
> > address@hidden; Mallory Ham
> > Subject: [Support #ZQO-437545]: request for IDD connection
> >
> > Hi Mallory,
> >
> > There are many "grids" available for both thr GFS and the NAM..
> >
> > i.e. I do not ~think you would want the Alaska NAM grids, but maybe I
> am
> > wrong, perhaps you utilize those for "upwind model initialization"..
> >
> > Also, you may not want BOTH the 40KM and the 20KM resolution of the
> NAM
> > over CONUS grid 215..
> >
> > If we keep it as needed we will reduce the chance of inducing any
> > latency.
> >
> > If you are still not sure, we can attempt requesting ALL GFS and NAM
> to
> > aeolus and let you work with them to determine your needs and we can
> > monitor to make sure we do not induce any latency to these and other
> > feeds from aeolus.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Jeff Weber
> >
> >
> >
> > > Jeff,
> > > I returned to work yesterday and was pleased to find satellite
> images
> > > available - have been running a couple of loops to aid me in
> > forecasting
> > > for the big fire here in Ventura County.
> > > If I am limited to just one model I would choose the GFS however if
> > the
> > > additional bandwith consumed is not too great it would be nice to
> have
> > > the NAM also.
> > > Thanks for your support.
> > > Mallory
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Unidata IDD Support
> > [mailto:address@hidden]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 8:58 AM
> > > To: Kent Field
> > > Cc: address@hidden; address@hidden;
> > > address@hidden; Mallory Ham
> > > Subject: [Support #ZQO-437545]: request for IDD connection
> > >
> > > Hi Mallory,
> > >
> > > NIMAGE is now available from aeolus.ucsd.edu
> > >
> > > Feel free to begin requesting any NIMAGE products.
> > >
> > > We would like to request a subset of the CONDUIT feed so we do not
> > > consume
> > > bandwidth unnecessarily.
> > >
> > > i.e. is there a specific model you are desirous of in the CONDUIT
> > feed?
> > >
> > > Please see:
> > >
> > > http://www.unidata.ucar.edu/data/conduit/ldm_idd/index.html
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > >
> > > Jeff Weber
> > >
> > >
> > > > Thanks again Jeff.  I'll be out of the office beginning Fri 9/15
> > until
> > > > Tue 9/26.  Depending on when additional data begins flowing you
> may
> > > not
> > > > hear back from me for a couple of weeks.
> > > > Mallory
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Unidata IDD Support
> > > [mailto:address@hidden]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 11:32 AM
> > > > To: Kent Field
> > > > Cc: address@hidden; address@hidden;
> > > > address@hidden; Mallory Ham
> > > > Subject: [Support #ZQO-437545]: request for IDD connection
> > > >
> > > > Hi Mallory,
> > > >
> > > > GEMPAK does not have an auto purge, but there are many ways to
> > "scour"
> > > > directories.
> > > >
> > > > The LDM queue will simply age off the oldest products as new ones
> > > arrive
> > > > using the allocated space for your LDM queue. Scour utilities can
> be
> > > > implemented over your data directory(ies) to insure you do not
> fill
> > up
> > > > storage, depending upon your needs and resources.
> > > >
> > > > > Jeff,
> > > > > Yes, this sounds like it will work for us.  Our IS dept is not
> > > worried
> > > > > about the full feed however they asked if GEMPAK has an auto
> purge
> > > of
> > > > > the data que.  I'm sure it does but will learn more about this
> to
> > > keep
> > > > > our machine running happy.  Please proceed.
> > > >
> > > > Will do...
> > > >
> > > > One more thing -  does it
> > > > > complicate or make extra work for folks if it is discovered that
> > we
> > > > need
> > > > > to reduce some products from the full feed?
> > > >
> > > > No, you can request the full feed, or any subset thereof, via
> > regular
> > > > expressions in your ldmd.conf file - or choose whether to file or
> > > > decode, etc. in your pqact.conf file. Either way it has no impact
> on
> > > > your upstream source.
> > > >
> > > > > Thanks for your quick response.
> > > > > Mallory
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > >
> > > > Jeff Weber
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Unidata IDD Support
> > > > [mailto:address@hidden]
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 10:04 AM
> > > > > To: Kent Field
> > > > > Cc: address@hidden; address@hidden;
> > > > > address@hidden; Mallory Ham
> > > > > Subject: [Support #ZQO-437545]: request for IDD connection
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Mallory,
> > > > >
> > > > > We would prefer to keep feeding you from UCSD as we have some
> > access
> > > > to
> > > > > that machine, and you are both geographically and electronically
> > > close
> > > > > to that node.
> > > > >
> > > > > We can begin ingesting the CONDUIT and NIMAGE into UCSD (I
> > believe,
> > > we
> > > > > will need to check w/them on this, but suspect it will be OK).
> Are
> > > > there
> > > > > specific items you desire in the CONDUIT and NIMAGE Feeds or do
> > you
> > > > > think you will desire the full feed. Keep in mind that CONDUIT
> > > > averages
> > > > > about 1.5 GB/hour and can reach 3 GB/hour.
> > > > >
> > > > > Not sure how big your queue is, but it may come into play with
> > this
> > > > type
> > > > > of volume, something you may want to check into.
> > > > >
> > > > > Great news that you can serve as a relay to other APCD's, we
> love
> > > that
> > > > > community spirit! As of now, we have not had additional
> requests,
> > > but
> > > > > suspect we will in the future.
> > > > >
> > > > > I will attempt to get the CONDUIT and NIMAGE feeds to UCSD's
> > machine
> > > > and
> > > > > notify you when they are there.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Does this sound like it will workable plan for you?..Hope so.
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > >
> > > > > Jeff Weber
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > > I work with Kent Field at Ventura County Air Pollution Control
> > > > > District
> > > > > > and am trying to get our Gempak system operational.  According
> > to
> > > > Rob
> > > > > > Dale (vender who set up our computer), the feed from UCSD
> > > > > > (aeolus.ucsd.edu) does not have the CONDUIT AND NIMAGE feeds.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://www.unidata.ucar.edu/software/idd/rtstats/siteindex.php?aeolus.uc
> > > > > > sd.edu
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Since it does not seem to be working with San Diego APCD being
> > the
> > > > > feed
> > > > > > host, may I suggest that Ventura County APCD become the feed
> > host.
> > > > I
> > > > > > have spoken to the folks in our IS department. They are
> > supportive
> > > > of
> > > > > my
> > > > > > suggestion and have assured me that they will allow other Air
> > > > > Districts
> > > > > > to get the feed when requested.  Alternately, could you find
> > > another
> > > > > > source for us that has the all the feeds?
> > > > > > Thanks for your help.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > Mallory Ham
> > > > > > Ventura County APCD
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original
> > > > > > Message-------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > From: Kent Field
> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 7:53 AM
> > > > > > To: 'address@hidden'
> > > > > > Cc: address@hidden; address@hidden; Mallory Ham
> > > > > > Subject: RE: [Support #ZQO-437545]: request for IDD connection
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I don't know how to put this and not sound negative or petty,
> > but
> > > > San
> > > > > > Diego APCD has some internal political powerplays going on,
> and
> > i
> > > > was
> > > > > > wondering if you could direct me through another data source.
> I
> > > > just
> > > > > > want to get weather data.  Maybe from SJSU or UCSB?  Is there
> a
> > > way
> > > > > you
> > > > > > can get this going for me soon?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sorry for the hassle,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Kent
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Unidata IDD Support
> > > > > [mailto:address@hidden]
> > > > > > Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 2:11 PM
> > > > > > To: Kent Field
> > > > > > Cc: address@hidden; address@hidden;
> > > > > > address@hidden; address@hidden
> > > > > > Subject: [Support #ZQO-437545]: request for IDD connection
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Kent,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have been talking with Robe Dale, and we feel it is best if
> > the
> > > > > APCD's
> > > > > > feed themselves. So, Jean Timmerman is the contact at SDAPCD,
> > and
> > > > > since
> > > > > > they are up and running, they should serve as the feed host.
> > Once
> > > > they
> > > > > > have placed the allow for you on their machine, and you point
> > your
> > > > > > request to their machine, data should flow.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jean's contact info is:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jean Timmerman
> > > > > > Air Resources Specialist
> > > > > > Air Pollution Control District
> > > > > > County of San Diego
> > > > > > 858-586-2762
> > > > > > address@hidden
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am going to cc Jean and Rob on this e-mail in hopes that you
> > can
> > > > > > coordinate this effort.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jeff Weber
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Jeff,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > My PC is turned on with gempak installed.  LDM installed.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm ready for the topology.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > What's next?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Kent
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: Unidata IDD Support
> > > > > > [mailto:address@hidden]
> > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 4:11 PM
> > > > > > > To: Kent Field
> > > > > > > Cc: address@hidden; address@hidden
> > > > > > > Subject: [Support #ZQO-437545]: request for IDD connection
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi Kent,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > No worries, a topology is a network set-up for data
> > delivery....
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I will contact SDAPCD, and ask them to place an allow for
> your
> > > > > machine
> > > > > > > to ingest data.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If we run into problems, we can feed you on an interim basis
> > > until
> > > > > > > either SDAPCD or a university accomodates us.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I am out of the office tomorrow, please view:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> http://www.unidata.ucar.edu/software/ldm/ldm-current/basics/feedtypes/
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > to see what data feeds you may desire
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > and view:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > http://www.unidata.ucar.edu/data/
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > for some explanation of the data.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I will contact SDAPCD to see if they are willing to feed
> you,
> > > and
> > > > we
> > > > > > > will proceed from there.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Is the LDM installed on your system yet?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If not, that would be a good start...I suspect from your
> > > "domain"
> > > > > name
> > > > > > > of the machine, that this may be a install from a vendor,
> and
> > > that
> > > > > > > GEMPAK and the LDM were pre-installed.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Not a problem to get up and running by July 1, normally we
> can
> > > get
> > > > > > > things going in a day, if all systems have standard
> installs,
> > > > > > > etc...otherwise more tome may be needed...SDAPCD took a bit
> of
> > > > time,
> > > > > > but
> > > > > > > hopefully we learned from that  one :)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Cheers and welcome aboard!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Jeff
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Jeff,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I can't say i'll be the last APCD to request data.  Here
> at
> > > this
> > > > > > APCD
> > > > > > > we
> > > > > > > > do twice daily air quality and fire weather forecasts.  We
> > > > > forecast
> > > > > > > > weather conditions for Ventura County Fire operations
> > > > (prescribed
> > > > > > fire
> > > > > > > > and wildfire).
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Sorry but my computer-speak is limited, i don't know the
> > term
> > > > > > > topology.
> > > > > > > > But i'll do whatever it takes to get things going.  How do
> > we
> > > > set
> > > > > it
> > > > > > > up
> > > > > > > > from here?  What's to do?  Who do i contact?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I need to have this up and running before July 1.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Kent
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > From: Unidata IDD Support
> > > > > > > [mailto:address@hidden]
> > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 2:54 PM
> > > > > > > > To: Kent Field
> > > > > > > > Cc: address@hidden; address@hidden
> > > > > > > > Subject: [Support #ZQO-437545]: request for IDD connection
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi Kent,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Apologies for the delayed response.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > San Diego Air Pollution Control District is ingesting data
> > via
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > IDD/LDM currently.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > They have an arrangement with SJSU for the data delivery.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > We, Unidata, provide data to universities and research
> > > > > > organizations.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Ideally, since you and SDAPCD will probably desire the
> same
> > > > data,
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > Air Pollution Control Districts can begin to establish a
> > > > topology
> > > > > of
> > > > > > > > their own..i.e. you would feed from SDAPCD, and so on.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I can check with SJSU amd perhaps UCLA to see if they are
> > > > willing
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > > feed you, but I think the best path is for the APCD's to
> > > > establish
> > > > > a
> > > > > > > > topology. Unidata can and will help you with that if you
> > > choose
> > > > to
> > > > > > go
> > > > > > > > that route...this approach scales much better...if we knew
> > > that
> > > > > you
> > > > > > > were
> > > > > > > > to be the last APCD to contact us we may arrive at a
> > different
> > > > > > > > conclusion, but I suspect there are more to come  :)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Let us/me know how you feel about this scenario and we can
> > > begin
> > > > > > > setting
> > > > > > > > things up.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Jeff
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I work with/for Ventura County Air Pollution Control
> > > District
> > > > in
> > > > > > > > > southern California.  I would like to request access to
> > > > receive
> > > > > > your
> > > > > > > > > weather data.  I'll be doing this via gempak.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Site name: Ventura County Air Pollution Control
> District,
> > > > > > California
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Site Administrator:  Kent Field
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Email: address@hidden
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Phone: 805-662-6960
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Fully Qualified Hostname: VCAPCDGEMPAK
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 67.115.210.229 will be the IP address the system will
> pick
> > > up
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > use.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > If there is someone else i should contact about this
> > please
> > > > let
> > > > > me
> > > > > > > > know.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Thank you,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Kent Field
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Jeff Weber
> > > > > > > > Unidata User Support
> > > > > > > > http://www.unidata.ucar.edu
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Ticket Details
> > > > > > > > ===================
> > > > > > > > Ticket ID: ZQO-437545
> > > > > > > > Department: Support IDD
> > > > > > > > Priority: Normal
> > > > > > > > Status: Open
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Jeff Weber
> > > > > > > Unidata User Support
> > > > > > > http://www.unidata.ucar.edu
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Ticket Details
> > > > > > > ===================
> > > > > > > Ticket ID: ZQO-437545
> > > > > > > Department: Support IDD
> > > > > > > Priority: Normal
> > > > > > > Status: Open
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jeff Weber
> > > > > > Unidata User Support
> > > > > > http://www.unidata.ucar.edu
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ticket Details
> > > > > > ===================
> > > > > > Ticket ID: ZQO-437545
> > > > > > Department: Support IDD
> > > > > > Priority: Normal
> > > > > > Status: Open
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Jeff Weber
> > > > > Unidata User Support
> > > > > http://www.unidata.ucar.edu
> > > > >
> > > > > Ticket Details
> > > > > ===================
> > > > > Ticket ID: ZQO-437545
> > > > > Department: Support IDD
> > > > > Priority: Normal
> > > > > Status: Open
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Jeff Weber
> > > > Unidata User Support
> > > > http://www.unidata.ucar.edu
> > > >
> > > > Ticket Details
> > > > ===================
> > > > Ticket ID: ZQO-437545
> > > > Department: Support IDD
> > > > Priority: Normal
> > > > Status: Closed
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > Jeff Weber
> > > Unidata User Support
> > > http://www.unidata.ucar.edu
> > >
> > > Ticket Details
> > > ===================
> > > Ticket ID: ZQO-437545
> > > Department: Support IDD
> > > Priority: Normal
> > > Status: Open
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Jeff Weber
> > Unidata User Support
> > http://www.unidata.ucar.edu
> >
> > Ticket Details
> > ===================
> > Ticket ID: ZQO-437545
> > Department: Support IDD
> > Priority: Normal
> > Status: Open
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> Jeff Weber
> Unidata User Support
> http://www.unidata.ucar.edu
> 
> Ticket Details
> ===================
> Ticket ID: ZQO-437545
> Department: Support IDD
> Priority: Normal
> Status: Closed
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

Jeff Weber
Unidata User Support
http://www.unidata.ucar.edu

Ticket Details
===================
Ticket ID: ZQO-437545
Department: Support IDD
Priority: Normal
Status: Closed