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[GEMPAK #GVN-932331]: GARP vs NMAP2

$NAWIPS/comet/garp/config/Garp_defaults is the file that controls what products 
are available via menus.  The entries in this table point to 
$GEMTBL/config/datatype.tbl which then points to the product directory location.

By default there are entires for "mrf1" and "mrf2", which point to "MRF" and 
"MRF_EXT", respectively, which then point (via datatype.tbl) to 

MRF          $MODEL/mrf                mrf_YYYYMMDDHHfFFF                       
        CAT_GRD  SCAT_FCT   -1     -1     -1      OFF/0/0      4

So you'll want to confirm that the directory $MODEL/mrf is in place and that 
files are written in the format mrf_YYYYMMDDHHfFFF.  If not you'll need to 
modify the pqact.conf entry for these MRF files so they're written accordingly.

Are you saying that the 'mrf1' and 'mrf2' menu entries don't exist in GARP?

As for the 72-hr limit I'll have to look at that in a bit, I have some GARP 
problems that need to be resolved first.


Michael
Unidata




> 
> Hello again,
> 
> Vertical cross sections are critical to teaching my class,
> so I just don't think I can use NMAP2, unless there is
> some other way to do it.
> 
> I have one, remaining, really pressing question about
> GARP, and while I understand that you no longer support
> it, I would really, really, appreciate it if you could
> help me with this one thing:
> 
> How do I modify things so that GARP sees data that I am getting,
> but that does not appear in the drop-down boxes? For example,
> I am getting MRF data (it has a directory in /home/ldm/data/gempak/model,
> and there is fresh data coming in) but when I open the box
> to choose which model output to look at, MRF does not appear.
> 
> There are a few labs that I teach that would really benefit
> from having data further out than 72 hours (as in GFS-thinned).
> 
> Thanks for your time.
> 
> Dave Nolan
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > Hi David,
> >
> > I'm traveling at the moment so I'm afraid I can't offer much in-depth help,
> > but in the directory $NMAP_RESTORE files can be edited to customize the
> > contouring and such.  Vertical cross sections, however, can't be done in
> > NMAP2, it's always been something that GARP could handle better.  I'll have 
> > to
> > get back to you again in a couple of weeks when I'm back in the lab and can
> > play with NMAP2 directly to answer your questions.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Michael James
> > Unidata
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> I had an exchange with you a few months ago when I asked
> >> some questions about GARP. You told me to move on to NMAP2.
> >>
> >> I have been looking at NMAP2, and it's pretty cool, but I
> >> don't think I can use it to teach my class. There are many
> >> things that I can't do with it that I can, and need to do,
> >> that I can do with GARP.
> >>
> >> These include: plotting analysis fields only, controlling
> >> contour levels and plotting styles, and making vertical
> >> cross sections. Or even just doing an arbitrary, single
> >> contour plot of a single level.
> >>
> >> I've looked at NMAP2 pretty closely but I can't find ways
> >> to do these things. Am I missing it? If not, what would
> >> you recommend?
> >>
> >> Thanks for your time.
> >>
> >>
> >> Dave Nolan
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> > Hi David,
> >> >
> >> > COMET, which originally developed GARP, has not contributed to or
> >> supported
> >> > the GRAP program for a very long time.  Because of this I always 
> >> > encourage
> >> > long-time GARP users to make the switch to NMAP2, thought I understand
> >> some
> >> > prefer the GARP interface.  However, GARP is provided "as is" and the
> >> package
> >> > is no longer supported by Unidata.  I know that's not the answer you were
> >> > hoping for, but given the age and fragility of GARP code, Unidata simply
> >> can't
> >> > offer support for the program.  If there's help I can offer with the
> >> > transition from GARP to NMAP2 please let me know.  Additionally, I would
> >> > encourage you to upgrade your 5.11.4 installation to the most recent 
> >> > 6.2.0
> >> -
> >> > or given another week or two, upgrade to the upcoming 6.4.0 release.
> >> >
> >> > Best,
> >> >
> >> > Michael James
> >> > Unidata
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> Hello,
> >> >>
> >> >> I use the Unidata/LDM and GARP for visualizing weather and model data
> >> >> for a synoptic meteorology class. We have GEMPAK 5.4.11 installed on a
> >> >> Linux machine running OpenSUSE.
> >> >>
> >> >> I have a few problems with GARP as it is now. They are:
> >> >>
> >> >> 1) When you use "time matching," and the times are selected for you,
> >> >> they no longer appear as grayed out times, but as solid black bars so
> >> >> that you cannot read the times. An example of the blacked out times is
> >> >> attached. I noticed this change when we upgraded to the current version.
> >> >>
> >> >> This exacerbates things if students get their times messed up.
> >> >>
> >> >> 2) Also, when you plot model data at various height levels, the level
> >> >> of the data no longer appears in the title at the bottom (like it
> >> >> used to). An example of this is also attached. This also makes it more
> >> >> difficult for students.
> >> >>
> >> >> I would very much appreciate your help with this. I contacted Unidata
> >> >> support about this last year but my correspondence was dropped, several
> >> >> times.
> >> >>
> >> >> Best regards,
> >> >>
> >> >> Dave Nolan
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> David S. Nolan
> >> >> Associate Professor
> >> >> Division of Meteorology and Physical Oceanography
> >> >> Rosenstiel School of Marine and Atmospheric Science
> >> >> University of Miami
> >> >> 4600 Rickenbacker Causeway
> >> >> Miami, FL 33149
> >> >> 305-421-4930
> >> >> address@hidden
> >> >> http://www.rsmas.miami.edu/personal/dnolan
> >> >>
> >> >> "Make things as simple as possible, but no simpler." - Albert Einstein.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Ticket Details
> >> > ===================
> >> > Ticket ID: UID-386004
> >> > Department: Support GEMPAK
> >> > Priority: Normal
> >> > Status: Open
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> David S. Nolan
> >> Associate Professor
> >> Division of Meteorology and Physical Oceanography
> >> Rosenstiel School of Marine and Atmospheric Science
> >> University of Miami
> >> 4600 Rickenbacker Causeway
> >> Miami, FL 33149
> >> 305-421-4930
> >> address@hidden
> >> http://www.rsmas.miami.edu/personal/dnolan
> >>
> >> "Make things as simple as possible, but no simpler." - Albert Einstein.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > Ticket Details
> > ===================
> > Ticket ID: GVN-932331
> > Department: Support GEMPAK
> > Priority: Normal
> > Status: Open
> >
> >
> 
> 
> --
> David S. Nolan
> Associate Professor
> Division of Meteorology and Physical Oceanography
> Rosenstiel School of Marine and Atmospheric Science
> University of Miami
> 4600 Rickenbacker Causeway
> Miami, FL 33149
> 305-421-4930
> address@hidden
> http://www.rsmas.miami.edu/personal/dnolan
> 
> "Make things as simple as possible, but no simpler." - Albert Einstein.
> 
> 


Ticket Details
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Ticket ID: GVN-932331
Department: Support GEMPAK
Priority: Normal
Status: Open