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20030703: NCDC on IDD/CONDUIT (fwd)



Alan,

I have allowed:

nomadsldm.ncdc.noaa.gov

to feed from:

atm.geo.nsf.gov

Please let me know if you encounter any problems..

Cheers,

Jeff
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Jeff Weber                                    address@hidden        :
Unidata Program Center                        PH:303-497-8676        :
University Corp for Atmospheric Research      3300 Mitchell Ln       :
http://www.unidata.ucar.edu/staff/jweber      Boulder,Co 80307-3000  :
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On Tue, 1 Jul 2003, Alan Hall wrote:

> Jeff,
>
> What NCDC needs from the IDD are all GRID products.  We do NOT need any TEXT,
> NEXRAD, or GOES products.  A leaf node feeding from a tier 1 site would be 
> best as
> NCDC does not want to re-distribute.
>
> CONDUIT can come at a later date and if possible after the changes to the data
> stream as discussed at the CONDUIT/CRAFT meeting last month.
>
> FQDN: nomadsldm.ncdc.noaa.gov    IP: 205.167.25.170   LDM: 6.0.13
>
> Alan.
>
>
> Jeff Weber wrote:
>
> > Glenn and Alan,
> >
> > What is the full machine name we are going to be feeding?
> >
> > Thank you,
> >
> > Jeff
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Jeff Weber                                    address@hidden        :
> > Unidata Program Center                        PH:303-497-8676        :
> > University Corp for Atmospheric Research      3300 Mitchell Ln       :
> > http://www.unidata.ucar.edu/staff/jweber      Boulder,Co 80307-3000  :
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > On Mon, 30 Jun 2003, Glenn Rutledge wrote:
> >
> > > THanks Linda for forwarding this.
> > >
> > > Jeff- I've set a machine up and Alan Hall (NCDC) installed LDM.  Alan is
> > > cc'ed herein (along with Danny Brinegar here at NCDC) to get the ball
> > > rolling.
> > >
> > > We are looking for a backup to the limited NOAAPOrt feed we already
> > > ingest.  We will increase to CONDUIT level resolutions when we can.
> > >
> > > Thanks to all.  Glenn
> > >
> > > Jeff Weber wrote:
> > > > Glenn,
> > > >
> > > > Are there other data products you desire via the IDD ~other than the
> > > > CONDUIT feed?
> > > >
> > > > Can I assume you have the LDM up and running on a machine?
> > > >
> > > > If not please get and install version 6.0.13 and provide the fully
> > > > qualified hostname, that the LDM is running on, back to us.
> > > >
> > > > Please see:
> > > >
> > > > http://my.unidata.ucar.edu/content/software/ldm/index.html
> > > >
> > > > Thank you,
> > > >
> > > > Jeff
> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > Jeff Weber                                    address@hidden        :
> > > > Unidata Program Center                        PH:303-497-8676        :
> > > > University Corp for Atmospheric Research      3300 Mitchell Ln       :
> > > > http://www.unidata.ucar.edu/staff/jweber      Boulder,Co 80307-3000  :
> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, 30 Jun 2003, Linda Miller wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>Hi Jeff,
> > > >>
> > > >>Here's  a note from Glenn Rutledge requesting top level IDD privileges.
> > > >>I'm copying Chiz and Ben too.  You and Chiz can work things out 
> > > >>accordingly.
> > > >>
> > > >>Thanks,
> > > >>Linda
> > > >>
> > > >>---------- Forwarded Message ----------
> > > >>Date: Monday, June 30, 2003 1:04 PM -0400
> > > >>From: Glenn Rutledge <address@hidden>
> > > >>To: "Glenn.Rutledge" <address@hidden>, Jim Steenburgh
> > > >><address@hidden>, Chiz <address@hidden>
> > > >>Subject: Re: NCDC on IDD/CONDUIT
> > > >>
> > > >>Chiz, Ben and Jim (Jim has volunteered to act as the Unidata Rep for
> > > >>NOMADS),
> > > >>
> > > >>I am ready here to hook into IDD for our NOAAPort backup and need IP's 
> > > >>or
> > > >>whatever is needed to hook into IDD.  Alan Hall indicated that we (NCDC)
> > > >>could be a tear 1 site (not sure what that means).
> > > >>
> > > >>We also will work to get on CONDUIT, but I wanted to go with IDD first,
> > > >>unless you feel we should just go with CONDUIT.  The primary goal I 
> > > >>need to
> > > >>fulfill is to backup our NOAAPort ingest for a better period of record 
> > > >>for
> > > >>the archive.
> > > >>
> > > >>Please let me know.  Thanks, Glenn
> > > >>
> > > >>Glenn.Rutledge wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>>Hello all-
> > > >>>I have been delayed somewhat getting on the IDD/CONDUIT and that delay
> > > >>>would have continued until my next funding cycle (next Spring?) thru my
> > > >>> NOMADS proposal.  So I found a free PC system and 180Gb of disk and we
> > > >>>are ready to work with you (Chiz et.al.), to get on.  There are some
> > > >>>items I would appreciate your comment on for before I embark on this
> > > >>>effort-
> > > >>>
> > > >>>1) I'd like to use IDD/CONDUIT as a backup to our NOAAPort 
> > > >>>ingest/NOMADS
> > > >>>archive here at NCDC (see http://nomads.ncdc.noaa.gov/ncdc-ui/ncdc.html
> > > >>>).  The plan is to work to install another LDM and have two feeds- the
> > > >>>NOAAPOrt, and the IDD; and compare/find missing data as required.  
> > > >>>Since
> > > >>>the grids/data are not identical I need to compare the delta's and have
> > > >>>a backup plan of operations;  I plan to use the NOAAPort feed as the
> > > >>>primary for several reasons: the NCDC NOMADS (w/ NOAAPort Grids) are
> > > >>>intended to service the "General Forecaster"- maybe the WFO forecaster
> > > >>>writing a paper, etc.).  The R/T NOMADS avbl at NCEP (and
> > > >>>retrospectively at NCDC), is intended to service requests from
> > > >>>University/Research community.  The data now avbl at NCEP in real-time
> > > >>>will eventually be avbl retrospectively; as well as the GDAS SSI (model
> > > >>>input/re-run/ initialization files with programs to convert these
> > > >>>machine dependent data to standards (pressure sfc's, lat/lon, etc.).
> > > >>>
> > > >>>2) I'd like to use CONDUIT/IDD to act as a method to receive (some of)
> > > >>>the real-time (R/T) NOMADS holdings at  NCEP. (see
> > > >>>http://140.90.198.156/index.html).
> > > >>>
> > > >>>The GFS, Eta, and RUC  avbl there are higher spatial/temporal
> > > >>>resolutions with a greater number of variables (then the NOAAPort).
> > > >>>
> > > >>>I've worked to get about 10TB/yr of NCDC archive (rotating for 5 
> > > >>>years),
> > > >>> thru my proposals in FY05. So 10TB/yr is my limit (and this could
> > > >>>change!)  So- I can't save it all, and the priority of what I save is
> > > >>>what Jordan plans to send me, (and what I believe he is making avbl on
> > > >>>his NOMADS).  So unless CONDUIT/IDD adds the missing data sets, I'll
> > > >>>just get a portion of these data from CONDUIT and the remainder from
> > > >>>NCEP directly.  (btw- I hope to start archiving the hi-res data sooner
> > > >>>then FY05).
> > > >>>
> > > >>>I wanted input from you on this plan, and maybe get some help on 
> > > >>>finding
> > > >>>the delta's between what Jordan has, and what CONDUIT has, and  maybe
> > > >>>suggest that CONDUIT add these data.  The idea is to have a
> > > >>>comprehensive system across NOMADS and CONDUIT for both real-time and
> > > >>>retrospective model input and output using both push/pull, and
> > > >>>distributed NOMADS slice and dice technologies.  This will pave the way
> > > >>>for Regional model initialization with the GDAS or EDAS data sets as 
> > > >>>well.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>Let me know if this makes sense!  Sorry for the length.  Glenn
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>---------- End Forwarded Message ----------
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>Linda Miller - address@hidden
> > > >>External Liaison, Unidata
> > > >>University Corporation for Atmospheric Research
> > > >>P.O. Box 3000
> > > >>Boulder, CO 80307-3000
> > > >>303-497-8646 fax: 303-497-8690
> > > >>URL:  http://www.unidata.ucar.edu/staff/lmiller/un.act.html
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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