forecast aggregations

John Caron caron at unidata.ucar.edu
Thu Mar 8 20:42:18 MST 2007


Steven.Anthony wrote:

> Hey John,
> I'm just wondering if you have had any luck with this (its still 
> driving me nuts ;). Thanks for the help.
>
> Thanks,
> - Steven
>
> John Caron said the following on 2/22/2007 1:21 PM:
>
>> Hi Steven:
>>
>> Can you send me a directory listing and the resulting FMRC catalog?
>>
>> If the server is running and I can access, just send me the catalog URL
>>
>> thanks
>>
>> Glenn.Rutledge wrote:
>>
>>> The following from Steve Anthony- Glenn
>>>
>>> Hey,
>>> Our problems with the FMRC Aggregation are from a date issue.  It 
>>> appears that when the data is read, the dates are getting thrown off 
>>> by an offset.
>>>
>>> In the catalog.xml file, we have copied (almost verbatim) the syntax 
>>> that UCAR uses for its Motherlode server.
>>> from catalog.xml:
>>>
>>> <datasetFmrc name="gfs-test-FMRC" collectionType="ForecastModelRuns" 
>>> harvest="true" path="fmrc/gfs_3">
>>> <netcdf 
>>> xmlns="http://www.unidata.ucar.edu/namespaces/netcdf/ncml-2.2" 
>>> enhance="true">
>>>    <aggregation dimName="run" 
>>> type="forecastModelRunSingleCollection" 
>>> fmrcDefinition="NCEP-GFS-Global_onedeg.fmrcDefinition.xml" 
>>> timeUnitsChange="true" >
>>>          <scanFmrc 
>>> location="/nomads3_data/raid2/noaaport/merged/gfs-hi/200611/20061129"
>>>        regExp=".*\.grb$"
>>>        runDateMatcher="#gfs_3_#yyyyMMdd_HH"
>>>        forecastOffsetMatcher="HHH#.grb#"/>
>>>          </aggregation>
>>> </netcdf>
>>>    <fmrcInventory 
>>> location="/nomads3_data/raid2/noaaport/merged/gfs-hi/200611/20061129" 
>>> suffix=".grb" 
>>> fmrcDefinition="NCEP-GFS-Global_onedeg.fmrcDefinition.xml" />
>>> </datasetFmrc>
>>>
>>> When I open up the "Forecast Model Run" folder in the FMRC dataset, 
>>> I see 4 links (like I should) but the run dates are horribly off, as 
>>> you can see below, the run dates are jumping by almost a month! - 
>>> these should only be 6 hours apart.
>>> gfs-test-FMRC_RUN_2007-02-12T00:00:00Z
>>> gfs-test-FMRC_RUN_2007-01-18T00:00:00Z
>>> gfs-test-FMRC_RUN_2006-12-24T00:00:00Z
>>> gfs-test-FMRC_RUN_2006-11-29T00:00:00Z
>>>
>>> The "Constant Forecast Offset" folder appears as it should, forecast 
>>> offsets out to 180 hours, and at a 3 hour interval.
>>>
>>> The "Constant Forecast Date" folder, however, also has problems, but 
>>> they are a combination of the 2 previous ones.
>>> gfs-test-FMRC_ConstantForecast_2006-11-29T00:00:00Z
>>> gfs-test-FMRC_ConstantForecast_2006-11-29T03:00:00Z
>>> gfs-test-FMRC_ConstantForecast_2006-11-29T06:00:00Z
>>> ...
>>> gfs-test-FMRC_ConstantForecast_2006-12-06T12:00:00Z  << looks normal 
>>> up to this point
>>> gfs-test-FMRC_ConstantForecast_2006-12-24T00:00:00Z  << then it 
>>> jumps 18 days, and does this 2 more times in the dataset.
>>> gfs-test-FMRC_ConstantForecast_2006-12-24T03:00:00Z
>>> gfs-test-FMRC_ConstantForecast_2006-12-24T06:00:00Z
>>> ...
>>>
>>> Questions:
>>> Is my syntax wrong in the catalog.xml file? (we have one grib1 file 
>>> per forecast hour per model run)
>>> What is in the NCEP-GFS-Global_onedeg.fmrcDefinition.xml file, and 
>>> where is it?
>>> Is there a way to customize them to possibly fix this?
>>> Has anyone else experienced issues with the this FMRC capability.
>>>
>>> if you need any more information, feel free to ask.
>>>
>>> As for the ROTFS, we currently don't host it on our TDS server, but 
>>> we can get some off of our nomads6 machine and put it up on the TDS 
>>> for you.
>>>
>>> Thanks a lot for your help,
>>> - Steven Anthony
>>>
>>>
>>> Steve Hankin wrote the following on 2/22/2007 12:12 AM:
>>>
>>>> Hi Glenn,
>>>>
>>>> I'm at the OPeNDP workshop with John Caron this week -- an 
>>>> opportunity to discuss the problems with the forecast aggregation 
>>>> server.
>>>>
>>>> Would you mind describing the nature (and details) of the 
>>>> problem(s) that you encountered with the configuring the forecast 
>>>> aggregation server for the RTOFS GRIB files?
>>>>
>>>>    - Steve
>>>>
>>>> P.S. John -- the OPeNDAP URL to the GDS server directory is 
>>>> http://nomads6.ncdc.noaa.gov:9090/dods/rtofs   I guess the THREDDS 
>>>> catalog isat  http://nomads6.ncdc.noaa.gov:9090/dods/rtofs.thredds.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>-- 
>Steven Anthony
>Computer Systems Analyst
>NOMADS Project
>STG Inc. Federal Contractor
>Veach-Baley Federal Building
>151 Patton Avenue
>Asheville, NC 28801-5001
>Phone: 828.271.4474
>
>http://nomads.ncdc.noaa.gov
>
Hi Steven:

I was trying to think of a way to debug this remotely. Can you create a 
small test case and send me catalog and files?



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