I thought some of you might be interested in this update on the new NCEP
ftp servers that I received from Luis Cano. Luis has been extremely helpful
through this process and I wish to thank him. The top e-mail is his reply
to the question I sent him after receiving the bottom e-mail. As you can
the NOGAPS and MM5 will no longer be available through NCEP after Jan. 31 of
We are planning on disabling the old server on Jan 31, 2002. We will
to support the current content on the old server until then.
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 12:38 PM
As you probably already know, we now have the new NCEP ftp servers
ftp://ftpprd.ncep.noaa.gov. I want to follow up on our email conversations
ensure that I have answered all of your concerns.
1. Data from NCEP Central Computer System -- NCEP Central Computer Facility
2. Model files:
o ftp://ftpprd.ncep.noaa.gov/pub/data/nccf/com/ contains NCEP model data
the avn, eta, mrf and other NCEP models.
3. Model gempak grids and gempak metafiles:
o ftp://ftpprd.ncep.noaa.gov/pub/data/nccf/com/nawips/prod contains gempak
grids and metafiles created by NCEP production in support of NCEP forecast
o ftp://ftpprd.ncep.noaa.gov/pub/data/nccf/com/nawips/para contain gempak
metafiles from production parallel. The "para" represents the model changes
that are running in parallel, which are enqueued for operational
o ftp://ftpprd.ncep.noaa.gov/pub/data/nccf/gpfstmp/glopara contain gempak
metafiles from development, principally EMC.
4. NCEP products, (primarily) destined for AWIPS
ftp://ftpprd.ncep.noaa.gov/pub/data/nccf/pcom, as of right now, contains a
very small amount of products that we normally send to the gateway for
We are keeping one day of data on the new ftp server.
For the nogaps, mm5, coamps and other non-NCEP models, we are planning not
host non-NCEP grids on our servers. We will continue to support the current
content on ftp://ftp.ncep.noaa.gov, but are planning not to host the
models on ftp://ftpprd.ncep.noaa.gov.
If you have any questions or concerns, please send me email and I'll do my
best to address any issues.
Robert Mullenax wrote:
> Thanks, we use the name and not the IP so we will be okay.
> Thanks for the advance notice. It is much appreciated.
> Robert Mullenax
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Luis Cano [mailto:Luis.Cano@xxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 6:59 AM
> To: Robert Mullenax
> Cc: Mark Chambers; Kyle Tupin; Devin Eyre; Paula Freeman
> Subject: Re: ftp.ncep.noaa.gov
> Robert, thank you for your response.
> We will make a number of tropical metafiles available on the new ftp
> made from the avn and mrf from the supercomputer production. We will try
> give everyone at least a couple of weeks before turning off the old ftp
> server. The plan is to replicate most of the data on the new ftp server,
> then move the name ftp.ncep.noaa.gov to the new server -- so it's
> to use the name and not the ip number when pulling files. The standard
> model grids will be available, what is in question are files that are
> created outside of supercomputer production such as the combined gempak
> grid files. The combined gempak grid files are created outside of
> production on old servers. Before changing the ip for the name
> ftp.ncep.noaa.gov, we will have an alternate name that can be used to make
> the transition. In other words, before changing the ip for ftp.ncep, the
> new server will be available with a different name. I should be able to
> send you the new name by next week and path information.
> Thanks again,
> Robert Mullenax wrote:
> > As log as the current grids will continue to be available, we will
> > just download them individually and pass them through dcgrib2. We will
> > not require the GEMPAK grids. As far as the metafiles go, we would
> > still like to be able to get the "tropical" metafiles. I assume
> > you will give us a couple of days heads up before the switch is made?
> > We will begin rewriting our scripts to get the files and decode them.
> > Thanks,
> > Robert Mullenax
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Luis Cano [mailto:Luis.Cano@xxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 12:55 PM
> > To: eluebehusen@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; mike.bender@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx;
> > rmullenax@xxxxxxxxxxxx; gempak@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; rdale@xxxxxxxx
> > Cc: Paula Freeman; Arthur Wick
> > Subject: ftp.ncep.noaa.gov
> > Hello,
> > We will be moving ftp.ncep.noaa.gov to new servers within the next
> > couple of weeks and want to give you a heads that there will be an issue
> > with the GEMPAK data that you are currently pulling from
> > ftp.ncep.noaa.gov. The GEMPAK grids will not be available from the new
> > servers because the servers that currently build the combined GEMPAK
> > files will be retired. Depending if needed, we can make the NCEP model
> > grids available in GEMPAK, however, the grids will not be in the
> > combined format. Instead, each forecast hour will be in it's own
> > separate file. For example, for the avn, there will be a separate
> > GEMPAK file for the 00z, 03z, and so forth. Also, the metafiles
> > available today on ftp.ncep.noaa.gov will not be available because the
> > same servers that create the GEMPAK metafiles are the same servers that
> > create the GEMPAK grids -- and these servers are being retired. We do
> > have GEMPAK metafiles available, however, the metafiles will most likely
> > not be exact to the metafiles currently available on the ftp server,
> > plus, the metafiles are always subject to change depending on the needs
> > of internal NCEP forecast operations. The GEMPAK grids/metafiles for
> > non-NCEP models, e.g. nogaps, will not be available and there are no
> > plans to make these available on the new servers.
> > Please send me an email of your GEMPAK grids and GEMPAK metafile
> > requirements and we will do what we can to make these files available on
> > the new NCEP ftp server. Once I hear from you, I'll let you know if we
> > can make the files available and the directory path on the new ftp
> > server plus any other information.
> > Thanks and sorry for any inconveniences.
> > Luis Cano
> > NCEP Central Operations
> > User Support Services