[gembud] GEMPAK going away in 3-5 years?

Nicholas Carrasco Nick.Carrasco at noaa.gov
Thu Jan 10 08:28:49 MST 2008


I'm in the same boat... This the first I've heard of AWIPS2. We've been 
developing a Java based application for the last 7-8 years for 
hurricanes and topical cyclones. From what I've just read, Java seems to 
be a big player in AWIPS2. Are there any sites dedicated to AWIPS2 yet?

Gerry Creager wrote:
> Interesting: I'd not heard AWIPS2 would be non-proprietary!  I'll have 
> to learn more.
> 
> gerry
> 
> Mark.Keehn at noaa.gov wrote:
>> I would wait and see what happens before making your final decision.  If
>> national support for GEMPAK does go away, it would only be after it's
>> capabilities have been integrated in to AWIPS2.  My understanding is
>> that AWIPS2 will be non-proprietary so that the private and academic
>> sectors will be able to use the software and contribute to the knowledge
>> base.  If the National Centers are being brought on board, hopefully
>> AWIPS2 will be better for viewing weather data on a global scale.   
>>
>> Mark Keehn
>> NWS Houston, TX
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> McIDAS would be the way we would move if something did happen to 
>> GEMPAK.  It's ability to deal with model data is not anywhere nearly as 
>> good, but the new MySQL database storage of GRIB data does make it 
>> faster, and text products via the wxtlist, tafrpt, sclist, sfcrpt has 
>> always been pretty good...and of course satellite is still it's strong 
>> suit.  We are heavy users of it right now for certain things.
>>
>> That being said if I ever get a new machine with 4GB of RAM ee will 
>> install IDV on it since it runs on Solaris x86/x64 now.  I have already 
>> played around with it quite a bit on my personal laptop.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: gembud-bounces at unidata.ucar.edu on behalf of Gerry Creager
>> Sent: Thu 1/10/2008 12:22 AM
>> To: Rob Dale
>> Cc: gembud at unidata.ucar.edu
>> Subject: Re: [gembud] GEMPAK going away in 3-5 years?
>>
>> While I really don't want to see Gempak go away, I'm ranching out a bit.
>>   I've been real impressed with IDV so far, although there are several
>> holes in it.  I've also been pretty well impressed with NCL after
>> spending this week with it almost exclusively.
>>
>> I've also heard more (and in a way, less, about AWIPS2 as I worked on
>> Storm Based Warnings over the last two years.
>>
>> gerry
>>
>> Rob Dale wrote:
>>  > There's a nice presentation on it from late last year.
>>  >
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>> http://www.unidata.ucar.edu/committees/usercom/2007OctMtg/TuellJune2007Partners.ppt
>>  >
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>>  >
>>  > And one from NCEP presented in the fall:
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>> http://www.ecmwf.int/newsevents/meetings/workshops/2007/MOS_11/presentations_files/Schotz.pdf
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>>  >
>>  > I don't see the words "going away" in there, I just think that 1) it's
>>  > an unknown entity right now and 2) might be more complex than just
>>  > downloading a new binary so 3) if you want to be sure you can read
>>  > GEMPAK files in 10 years, you'll be safe with IDV.
>>  >
>>  > 
>>  >
>>  > -          Rob
>>  >
>>  > 
>>  >
>>  > *From:* gembud-bounces at unidata.ucar.edu
>>  > [mailto:gembud-bounces at unidata.ucar.edu] *On Behalf Of *Robert Mullenax
>>  > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 09, 2008 8:33 PM
>>  > *To:* gembud at unidata.ucar.edu
>>  > *Subject:* [gembud] GEMPAK going away in 3-5 years?
>>  >
>>  > 
>>  >
>>  > I just happened to be reading on the Unidata site about IDV and GEMPAK
>>  > grids when I was alarmed to come upon this statement:
>>  >
>>  >
>>  > "The second pressing issue is the impending transition of NAWIPS/GEMPAK
>>  > to AWIPS2 in the next 3-5 years. At this point, it is unknown how that
>>  > will impact Unidata's GEMPAK users, but the committee thought that
>>  > having IDV support GEMPAK data files would be a way for GEMPAK users to
>>  > transition to the IDV if they wanted."
>>  >
>>  >
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