question about motherload download (fwd)

Wed Aug 23 14:18:12 MDT 2006

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Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 13:45:43 -0600
From: Steve Chiswell <chiz at unidata.ucar.edu>
Reply-To: chiz at ucar.edu
To: Robb Kambic <rkambic at unidata.ucar.edu>
Cc: support-idd at unidata.ucar.edu
Subject: Re: question about motherload download (fwd)

On Wed, 2006-08-23 at 13:06 -0600, Robb Kambic wrote:
> Chiz,
>
> do you know why i'm not receiving the 3-90 forecast for NDFD? here' my
> pqact entry:
>
> NPORT   ^[LM].U... KWBN ([0-3][0-9])([0-2][0-9])([0-6][0-9])
>         FILE
> data/pub/native/grid/NCEP/NDFD/CONUS_5km/NDFD_CONUS_5km_(\1:yyyy)(\1:mm)\1_\200.grib2

The NOAAPORT data only provides NDFD for F090-F180. This comprises days
4 through 7 as noted in the initial admin notice:
http://www.unidata.ucar.edu/support/help/MailArchives/nws-changes-list/msg02641.html

>
> since the 2nd, 4-5 chars in the pattern are dots, i thought i should
> receive. i get the 90-180 hours.
>
> also do you why the large range of file sizes for same model run hour 12?
> it's  18-28 megs.

Parts of the data are rebroadcast later in the day as needed. You can
update the grid received each time. For example the maximum temperature
grids over the past three days:

[98517] 060823/0745[DECODE_GRIB2 0] TMXK [060823/1200F108] 2:-1 HGHT 1073 689
[98517] 060823/0746[DECODE_GRIB2 0] TMXK [060823/1200F132] 2:-1 HGHT 1073 689
[98517] 060823/0748[DECODE_GRIB2 0] TMXK [060823/1200F156] 2:-1 HGHT 1073 689
[98517] 060823/0748[DECODE_GRIB2 0] TMXK [060823/1200F180] 2:-1 HGHT 1073 689
[16354] 060823/1247[DECODE_GRIB2 0] TMXK [060823/1200F108] 2:-1 HGHT 1073 689
[16354] 060823/1249[DECODE_GRIB2 0] TMXK [060823/1200F132] 2:-1 HGHT 1073 689
[16354] 060823/1250[DECODE_GRIB2 0] TMXK [060823/1200F156] 2:-1 HGHT 1073 689
[16354] 060823/1251[DECODE_GRIB2 0] TMXK [060823/1200F180] 2:-1 HGHT 1073 689

[47159] 060822/0817[DECODE_GRIB2 0] TMXK [060822/1200F108] 2:-1 HGHT 1073 689
[47159] 060822/0818[DECODE_GRIB2 0] TMXK [060822/1200F132] 2:-1 HGHT 1073 689
[47159] 060822/0819[DECODE_GRIB2 0] TMXK [060822/1200F156] 2:-1 HGHT 1073 689
[47159] 060822/0821[DECODE_GRIB2 0] TMXK [060822/1200F180] 2:-1 HGHT 1073 689
[58117] 060822/1248[DECODE_GRIB2 0] TMXK [060822/1200F108] 2:-1 HGHT 1073 689
[58117] 060822/1249[DECODE_GRIB2 0] TMXK [060822/1200F132] 2:-1 HGHT 1073 689
[58117] 060822/1250[DECODE_GRIB2 0] TMXK [060822/1200F156] 2:-1 HGHT 1073 689
[58117] 060822/1252[DECODE_GRIB2 0] TMXK [060822/1200F180] 2:-1 HGHT 1073 689

[84691] 060821/0815[DECODE_GRIB2 0] TMXK [060821/1200F108] 2:-1 HGHT 1073 689
[84691] 060821/0816[DECODE_GRIB2 0] TMXK [060821/1200F132] 2:-1 HGHT 1073 689
[84691] 060821/0817[DECODE_GRIB2 0] TMXK [060821/1200F156] 2:-1 HGHT 1073 689
[84691] 060821/0819[DECODE_GRIB2 0] TMXK [060821/1200F180] 2:-1 HGHT 1073 689
[2745] 060821/0846[DECODE_GRIB2 0] TMXK [060821/1200F108] 2:-1 HGHT 1073 689
[2745] 060821/0847[DECODE_GRIB2 0] TMXK [060821/1200F132] 2:-1 HGHT 1073 689
[2745] 060821/0848[DECODE_GRIB2 0] TMXK [060821/1200F156] 2:-1 HGHT 1073 689
[2745] 060821/0849[DECODE_GRIB2 0] TMXK [060821/1200F180] 2:-1 HGHT 1073 689
[96889] 060821/1248[DECODE_GRIB2 0] TMXK [060821/1200F132] 2:-1 HGHT 1073 689
[96889] 060821/1249[DECODE_GRIB2 0] TMXK [060821/1200F156] 2:-1 HGHT 1073 689
[96889] 060821/1250[DECODE_GRIB2 0] TMXK [060821/1200F180] 2:-1 HGHT 1073 689

Note that on 8.21 the TMXK grids for F108, F132, F156 and F180 were sent
the extra time 0846 LDT as compared to the 8.22 and 8.23.

Steve Chiswell
Unidata User Support

>
> thanks,
> robb...
>
>
> -rw-r--r--   1 ldm      ustaff   21166449 Aug 16 12:52
> NDFD_CONUS_5km_20060816_1200.grib2
> -rw-r--r--   1 ldm      ustaff   21720443 Aug 17 12:51
> NDFD_CONUS_5km_20060817_1200.grib2
> -rw-r--r--   1 ldm      ustaff   27256018 Aug 18 12:59
> NDFD_CONUS_5km_20060818_1200.grib2
> -rw-r--r--   1 ldm      ustaff   30429468 Aug 19 13:01
> NDFD_CONUS_5km_20060819_1200.grib2
> -rw-r--r--   1 ldm      ustaff   18673385 Aug 20 12:58
> NDFD_CONUS_5km_20060820_1200.grib2
> -rw-r--r--   1 ldm      ustaff   28111755 Aug 21 12:59
> NDFD_CONUS_5km_20060821_1200.grib2
> -rw-r--r--   1 ldm      ustaff   18335528 Aug 22 12:59
> NDFD_CONUS_5km_20060822_1200.grib2
> -rw-r--r--   1 ldm      ustaff   24221730 Aug 23 12:52
> NDFD_CONUS_5km_20060823_1200.grib2
>
>
> ==============================================================================
> Robb Kambic        			   Unidata Program Center
> Software Engineer III			   Univ. Corp for Atmospheric Research
> rkambic at unidata.ucar.edu		   WWW: http://www.unidata.ucar.edu/
> ==============================================================================
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 20:45:00 -0600
> From: Ben Domenico <bendomenico at gmail.com>
> Reply-To: Ben at unidata.ucar.edu
> To: Jennifer Boehnert <boehnert at ucar.edu>
> Cc: Jack Settelmaier <Jack.Settelmaier at noaa.gov>,
>      THREDDS Development List <thredds-dev at unidata.ucar.edu>
> Subject: Re: question about motherload download
>
> Hi Jennifer and Jack,
>
> I don' t know much about how we bring in the NDFD data or how it should be
> structured.  I'll forward this to the THREDDS group who maintain the
> motherlode server.
>
> -- Ben
>
> On 8/22/06, Jennifer Boehnert <boehnert at ucar.edu> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Ben,
> > Jack Settelmaier had some questions about motherload's netCDFserver.  He
> > was asking where the forecast for hours 3- 90 were for the NDFD
> > conus_5km there are only forecasts for 90 - 180.
> >
> > Also why the file sizes were all different for the different grib
> > files.  For example :
> > NDF_Conus_5km_20060822_1200.grib2 was 8.963
> > NDF_Conus_5km_20060821_1200.grib2 was 28.11
> > could there be a download issue on your receiving end?
> >
> > Jack if I have misunderstood your questions please let Ben know.
> > Thanks Jennifer
> >
> > --
> > Jennifer Boehnert
> > GIS Coordinator
> > RAL/ISSE
> > National Center for Atmospheric Research
> > Boulder, CO
> >
> >
-- 
Steve Chiswell <chiz at unidata.ucar.edu>
Unidata